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here we grow again y'all!
Interesting name. I worked for 23 years in the culinary industry before retiring and One of my earliest influences was a chef by the name, Thomas Keller. His restaurant was called. "The French Laundry".
Yeah they had to abbreviate it from french laundry to FkaFL because of a conflict of interest resulting in a cease and desist order maybe it was that restaurant that is why. I have the run down that ai found for me about it online it has a good lineage and funny back story so I am intrigued and definitely excited to see what harvest brings in a few months, I've never grown in soil before but it came in soil so I think I'll just keep her there instead of midway into veg transplanting into coco and perlite
That's awesome. I actually just changed to coco from living soil. I'm on my 6th coco run I believe and I love how it either is, or it isn't. If you know what's going in and what coming out, you can handle most anything... Most anything. I've been considering synganics lately. I just wish I had the time and space to do what I really want. Weird thing about the naming conflict. I haven't thought about that part of my life in ateat 5 years.
Right right coco is the shit if you have the time to pay attention to just your ec and runoff and can read the plant in its most basic asks before it hits issue point than coco is by far the most forgiving medium imo I think you only have more control when you run rodwc but that is less forgiving than coco everytime
So you have experience with rdwc then? I was going to throw together a DWC system and found out I could just buy a basic kit for cheaper than buying it all and building it. So I bought one, but that's as far as I've gotten. I have parted it out to use in my auto fertigation system that is just a hydro farm autopilot and a 400gph pump some tubing etc. I know for a fact I won't be able to keep the reservoir temp below 70° consistently and like you said. Changes or problems can occur swiftly. You get hours in coco I've noticed. A mistake can go really bad in 12 hours if you let it. I imagine in dwc and rdwc it's quicker. Also I don't have the need to grow massive amounts of bud. These days my hyper focus is on quality. Living soil is a nice easy way to grow if you aren't too concerned with chasing every little issue. Changes take a while and it's a challenge to be able to spot a problem early enough so top dressing even makes a difference. You have to wait for the herd to process it. Ferments are good. Drenches are faster. But then you're tiptoing into the realm of synganics. And it takes a shitload of space to make sure you have enough in your soil to carry you. When it's right it truly is "just add water" . All that damn soil though. You just have to reuse it. It's the only thing that makes sense if you are an avid soil grower. I used to mix coco into the final mix. About 30% coco perlite 70/30 added to the pro-mix and then I'd make the soil concentrated so I could have more in less space. Cut that about 1:3 living soil to the inert coco and pro-mix. You want to keep living soil wetter. Not soaked. Man there is an absolute art to watering soil. It'll drive you crazy till you get it down. It's all about the dryback. The coco let's it stay almost perfect and you just use grow bags on a bottom wicking feeding/watering system. Jesusr I'm rambling. Hey good luck with your grow and I'll be watching!
No I have not ever run a rdwc set up I have read up on them pretty extensively tho so I have a understanding of how they work and such. I was wanting to do dwc as well but man coco just was so easy for me to learn and dial in everything within a short timeframe only think I need to get better with I know is really hurting my final final is when to ramp up PK for bulking phase of flower I can grow some 🔥 that's tried and true but the swell in bulking seems to evade me every time so far they may bulk some but never truly get swollen up like I see ofbers buds doing and it could be strain related but they are kinda airy too except the white rhino from last grow it was dense and tight calyxes but even they were only 1-1.6g buds and not a ton of them
hopefully this second feeding gets the droopy shit to stop may need a heavier feed tho cause EC was 1.3 going in and .6 runoff pH input was 6.5 runoff was 6.0
It happens yes at lights on which in itself wouldn't worry me just about 4hrs before lights off the drop not completely limp but enough it cin concerned me today since after I fed yesterday they didn't droop that evening but did it again today at 5pm and lights off ain't till 1030pm so it seems too early for it to be end of day relaxing. Could be wrong tho first time in soil and first with clone so I feel like it's my first time all over again haha but she's eating vigorously I fed at a EC of 1.3 it was .6 for my runoff that's a big drop so next feeding in a few days is gonna be heavier that these two feedings were I'll do .75 tsp grow .5 tsp micro and .75tsp bloom which is .25tsp more for each nutrient added, unsure when to use camg as I know it's not as necessary every feeding with soil compared to coco where it's needed every time almost (some say every time period) I want to push her to her limits but I know you don't come out the gate full blast with any early veg plant. But I am definitely going to push for a higher EC and feed schedule slight increases thru mid flower then taper off thru ripening and into harvest finishing with a 24hr flush just to appease that need to flush that's engrained in us from day one I know most sat 2 weeks I challenge that in saying bud doesn't store salts and nutrients like leafs and roots so it's not needed that intensely I've tested this theory in a 2 week flush for one plant and 24hr for a second with every other aspect of the grow from seed the same besides that one difference in flush length and I can say I liked it better 24hr flush and I feel I degraded potency and flavonoids and terpenes in the 2 week flush high just wasn't as fulfilling or heavy and flavor was definitely less pronounced in the 2 week flush as well.
Bigger pot 3 gal now didn't flood her at all no runoff but enough water to take away any air pockets I may have had. Used purified drinking water as the groundswell has nutrients for her for up to 4 weeks but I'll watch closely after 2 just in case she's hungrier now
Performed actiontype.watering 1.5l 1liter bottom fed .5 top fed defoliated 3 leafs tied down 2 branches to begin lst will tie down other 2 bottom branches here shortly
Performed actiontype.watering 1.5l 1liter bottom fed .5 top fed defoliated 3 leafs tied down 2 branches to begin lst will tie down other 2 bottom branches here shortly
Tells you your exact ppfd which is helpful in dialing in your set up! Check it out it's free on the app store or play store and finally got this watering and moisture issue under control plant is turgid and happy today unlike previous mornings she looked pretty sad
Do u have to thing ur supposed to use with it cause alone its not correct its way off u can also tell the light is too far away cause shes lanky should be thicker to be that tall i just go by the light specs usually tells u how far ur light needs to be i keep mine as close as possible without burning if i see burning i move it up like tip burn last pic i saw yea it way too far up i would either top it or train it so the rest is the same height
So that long intermodal spacing isn't because my light is too high it's only 2 inches off the minimum height recommendation for this light per manufacturer specs but that app you put a piece of white paper over your camera I have been told by others and seen done on others post regarding this app and it's a ballpark not a absolute. Back to internodal spacing my light although full spectrum it favors red which as you should know given your statements here that that causes longer internodal space than if I had more blue spectrum RN so that's one part of it two is it's a clone I got this way from the dispensary I didn't take this cutting
Yea thats what i was trying to do when i first started too look at my grow then look at urs im on 6th but u learn as u go that paper ting do3snt do it right either u gotta have the difuser thing for it to be correct and its much easier to go by heat like getting a vpd montor with a probe i got one for 20 lets me know the heat right at the canopy thats what is the issue when doing leds u can be close it more about heat/humidty then light burn since it tall i woud just totally put a 90 bud clip right in the middle there right above the other braches then bring ur light down
Ohh but u could turn it and make the top shorter or top it so it can be closer to the rest im a big advocate of training so just saying more light to more areas more buds so
I am going to top it today I was just waiting until I had cloning gel and a root plug I like to not waste things so I want to take what I cut off and use that cutting to make a clone because if it is successful in rooting then I will have two plants that are the same age and same height so when I flip the flower after I train for a few weeks I have this double my yield potential and and didn't cost me but $6 for the rooting gel
Yea sounds good fyi when u lollipop later u will have better cutting for clones i just took 5 and there all clone size they wouldnt have gotten any light cause i have the canopy filled already so u have to lollipop so u dont get little buds so ur buds on top will get bigger
Yeah I kept too much last run and because of it all the work I did filling the canopy in with the trellis netting the buds never really swelled much so I lost a lot of potential weight because I tried to only strip the bottom 4-6 inches when I should have stripped everything more than 3 inches below the net but also I am looking at under canopy which will make some more worth keeping but not all unless I really put some watrage to that area. I am buying a California lightworks solar system 550 and controller for it next week or week after and instead of selling the 2 clw solar Xtreme 250s I have I was thinking mount one on one side wall and the other on the opposite side wall and have the 550 beaming down on top I can manage heat from that and if the lights won't be negatively affected by hanging them like that since they have a fan on top which would be towards the wall and the other vents one would be up the other straight down I'm not sure so I'll have to do more research first if not I may sell the sx250s or at least one if not both and keep the other for veg or something
Yea u can just get a dimmer to disl them back so u can get closer i got more mass with a 60 watt on 2 plants than that in 2 weeks was aalso hand traiing the whole time so just bending and moving smaller ones inside whenever i checked on them 2 to 3x a day i just put the net on 2 weeks after transplant
Yea u can just get a dimmer to disl them back so u can get closer i got more mass with a 60 watt on 2 plants than that in 2 weeks was aalso hand traiing the whole time so just bending and moving smaller ones inside whenever i checked on them 2 to 3x a day i just put the net on 2 weeks after transplant
Cut her just about in half when I topped her which resulted in a cutting that after trimming about a inch or so off the stem from the cutting ar a 45° angle dipped her in some garden safe rooting powder up the stem about 1 inch as recommended then buried her in a premade hole in the groundswell soil and put that bag over her for humidity.. left a gap for airflow but will take bag off 2x daily to replenish air and such.
Used paperclips to pull the bottom branches flat and outward it's the easiest method I've found those plant clips are too dramatic but these looks hook around the branches secure to the pot some dash.
Dealing with a lot of heat right now thankfully the lil lady is handling it well among other stresses she's had from moving and waiting for the new house to be ready but here she is.. and the cutting I took she's looking hella sad but she's still alive...barely but she is pushing new growth daily slowly
Shes looking a lot better today watered her as the soil was at a perfect dry back to do so yesterday afternoon, forgot to post pictures after that. She looks happy again and I'm seeing normal leaf development not crinkled or burnt or any other deformity which makes me very happy. Crazy how resilient these plants truly are for how much we baby them sometimes
Well that sums it up well! She survived the shit storm hotel grow stress for both of us hahaha seriously tho i want one of those rolling hotel luggage racks that shit was perfect I can see it now picture that rack wrapped in mylar reflective wrap all around and hang both my clw solar Xtreme 250s side by side that bitch would be the best I bet! Just don't know where to get one without robbing it fromage vthe hotel....
Every day I see that color evening out more and more looking more healthy and seeing new leaf growth and shoots that werent there yesterday but now I can tie down as a branch! Love it I am so glad I took the leap and bought the seeds that made me love this process we call growing cannabis... Not for profit but for the love of the plant and all it represents and means to us and the things we don't know yet that thru this process one day we will know or the lives touched or saved by this wonderful gift from God.... And on that note here's some photos of my Ladies today momma FKaFL and the clone from a clone pt 2
Nice ladys
This run is just one for now I have tried my hand at cloning now I'm on my third attempt and I think it is working well
Yeah when you start clones it becomes an obsession
I would love to successfully clone her just to keep things going after this seed ban in case I can't find a reliable affordable seed connect I can't afford the 50 a clone vendors offer got my seeds from strng and alot of ppl don't like them but I have had great results as a newbie all three plants I have popped I made it thru harvest no issues besides my own learning mistakes. Then a friend who grows here in az gave me a bag with a few seeds
I do both cloning and seed. I am just so obsessed with growing
Me too
There's something about popping a seed that's just different than having a successful clone, cloning I feel like I'm a mad scientist or something putting powder on cut off branch and it becomes a free well that's dope but how Bout the morning when you wake up turn the light on and see fhat fresh seedling just poking thru the ground... What a rush
Yeah then next thing you you have multiple places too clones. I feel ya growmie
I thought I had left the clips on long enough to have the branches harden off and stay in place without them, but I was wrong she was trying too hard to go vertical and not in a way that would work well if basically looked like it would choke itself out if not reclipped. Got her all clipped up N flattened her out as best I could. I guess I leave them till flowering starts?
I like the cage
Thank you lol dog has a tendency when left home alone to try her damnedest to get to the leafs she will smash em till she is content she got two small branches yesterday morning
Got to protect them everything wants to eats or destroy all our hard work
Yeah I had put up a fence and bells for deer around here they will eat the crap out of it when it starts to flower
Performed watering
Oh yeah
Lol yeah my LST skills could use some improvement but I am getting better at it this time I got her wider but also none of the nodes lined up on this one she was a clone one of the local dispensarys gave me so I have been trying to figure out making her flat without any part of her being level.. also she was completely like she was grown against a wall almost how flat the one side was so clips are because of trying to send shoots that way so she would have four sides it'll work for now. I'll get it right next run cause it will be from seed which gives me symetrical which takes out half of my issues. I am going to let her start going vertical tho from here on ouf and do my best by readjusting as needed but for the most part I am done pushing wider i am ready to go taller now.
Now that's what's up
Yeah I think I'm ready to let her go vertical' I measured yesterday she is almost 4 times wider than she is tall.
Had to do something the dogs were eating leafs any chance they got lol it's working well so far only load one leaf since she got put in the cage.
Yeah I'm not gonna flip until she gets to be about 2.5-3ft tall so she's got time still I'm not trying to flower her in this three gallon pot I want to move her to a 7-10gallon to finish in, that happens at the end of the month then once she's recovered I'll do one last round of tie downs and then flip her to 12/12
Ty I am excited to see what she flowers like too I am thinking with this longer than usual veg and her building some nice pencil sized or bigger branches already she's bulking up to have a nice heavy flowering period I know nothing about her besides she's indica and had a funny backstory to her name I have no clue what to expect from her she was a gift from the dispensary
Plant size isn't equal to bud size tho. It does look indica because shes still short after topping for sure. Might want to flower her earlier so you can see for sure. Ive wasted time in the past thinking big plants = big buds
I know it is possible to have a great harvest on a plant that isnt huge but more nass and branches more budsites will develop this run I will lollipop her but I want under canopy lighting so I can bulk the mid level buds and I'm at a friends house now my house still ain't ready hoping Monday it will be but we'll see
From moving from the apartment to the hotel where there was no ac for 11 days to not being able to use my light for a couple days then the dogs trying to make salad out of her she still managed to be a beautiful plant
I think it was a great idea to use the cage really shows intuitive smart thinking
Have u thought of using the cage as tie off points for monster cropping
I had not thought about using it as a training tool no but that is an interesting idea! Maybe next run I'll get a cage I can use for the whole cycle and try that just to see how it works out!
Awesome
Oh wait she is weed hahaha
Those are sticky traps for the couple bugs I've seen try to get into her pot can't have that and shes all one plant just trained wide
Woke up the lady's with. Liffle finger pressure bending on the tops to push them to spread out some loving how many active fops I have but I know that means I may have a lot of good buds I will not be seeing any huge colas or so I been told topped her twice then topped those tops ..why? Cause I can and I'm experimenting as a new grower this is progress from paranoid to bend them or top even twice lol y'all know what I'm talking bout saving too much lowers at flower all that....
Goodmorring beautiful
Performed feeding most water used as of yet in a feeding or watering did so to get proper runoff and such but may be my new method cause I like how I could see as I worked to my desired runoff pH and EC
Say what you may about the unconventional cage around her but you gotta admit she's looking good for the temporary home clone day 2 no dome
Definitely it was implemented because I am crashing at a friend's house waiting on mine to be ready I hope this weekend but the dogs kept getting at it so I put it in the cage to keep them out of it which has worked and funny your the second person to mention using it as a trellis but if I'm moving out of my friends soon I don't want to get her locked into that cage as it's his I have one but it's in my storage unit
Yeah it definitely does work for sure I mean had to get creative to keep the light high enough above her to not bleach or fry the leafs but beyond that it's been working wonderfully, now I know in a pinch that it will work could even wrap in mylar reflective wrap too if you could still mitigate the heat and all, I have a small fan set up blowing thru the plant so I been steady at 22°c and rh between 45-53% really only hit that higher number right after watering her as evaporation is real here in phoenix even putting a bowl of water to raise rh doesn't always work cause it evaporated faster than it could be beneficial.
Look at that beautiful sight.. all leafs praying like they were talking to God or something lol not excessive enough to be concerned I find this leaf position is letting me know she's dialed in and happy not lacking not overdone juuussst right 😂😆😂
Looks like its in trouble lol the cage is tgat to keep animals out or are u gonna trellis like a box?
To keep the dogs from eating the leafs although it could work asa a trellis however once my house gets this stinking inspection I can move in finally and she will have a full walk in closet to live out her days in and hopefully the two cuttings become established plants to run as this one drys and cures
Daytime comes in around 22-24° and if your curious why I do celcius I do it cause that's what my thermometer and rh meter reads in and I'm too crazy to convert to farenheight it's mid 70s I know that rh sits around 45-50% generally and she seems happy within a few mins of lights on she's praying again any droop is circadian rhythm not deficiency
Performed watering gave her two water bottles this morning to hydrate her she's filling out nicely probably going to take her out of the cage today for a light defoliation and to maybe put a few clips on branches to redirect them outwards on the one side that is a little flatter than the other sides otherwise just biding time until I get into my new house and can put her in her final pot and then as soon as she's better from the stress of moving and transplanting I'll flip to flower. Or do y'all think I should let her finish in the 3 gallon pot and do 7gal next run?
Performed feeding solid feed for her not the heaviest I've gave her but a good solid amount as she grows closer and closer to flip time.. growth wise she is branching heavily and producing a heavy ammount of leafs to the point where I have taken cuttings from her multiple times and you wouldn't guess this looking at her. Matter of fact after these pictures I took 3 new cuttings in my endeavors to learn how to clone successfully. My prior attempts have made it to the four to six day mark then failed every time so this last round I am trying something new, instead of dipping in take root powder then straight to fresh groundswell soil with a freezer bag for dome only I did something new I flushed the groundswell first with a gallon of water thru the four inch nursery pot to strip most if not all of the pre amended nutrients in it in hopes of making it more inert instead of hot and possibly burning roots as they develop? I also used the scissors and scraped the outer layer off of the stems first inch to expose inner tissue and Sofar that cutting looks ok also put one in a bottle of drinking water right away for 20mins then I took the take root powder dipped the first inch of stem in it and right back into the water she went and bagged her for humidity and I didn't mean to take this final one but since it happened and it was by far the thickest branch I have tried cloning with it had an inch of stem followed by a fork where it split into two connected branches well I put that inch of stem in water for a couple mins dipped in take root and again back into the water no dome and I left most of the leaf mass on it as well only took off lower small leafs and three large fan leafs up top and I have been spraying the leafs once a day with water that one seems sad but not dead just droopy I doubt any of the newest three have started rooting yet can definitely say no to the water bottle ones but next few days if it's gonna happen I expect to see some sort of starting changes at least. The oldest of them the one I took about a week ago I am hoping to see some new leaf growth soon. Shes still under the bag in low light conditions same for the newest ones that are bagged they get natural daylight from across the room and some light from the clw solar Xtreme 250 the mother is under from across the room as well I'll add pictures in a quick post next any suggestions post them there on the specific cutting so I keep them for future notes tyia happy growing y'all
She has filled in wonderfully and that makes me very happy as I worried I was too aggressive with the stripping but I would say the way she didn't miss a beat she's plenty happy with my card. I ordered 7 and ten gallon fabric pots not sure which one I'll use maybe I'll flip two of the baby's same time as momma flips and let one go in 7gal the other in 10 And see what my results are and if it's worth it or not
Well y'all she was getting way too leafy and thick so I had to do some more bending using the plant clips which helped open her up some then I did a defoliation of all the inner dead leafs and anything that was going to have no chance of being a contributing factor when she's flowered. This is definitely the longest time I have let a plant veg for.
As you can see I defoliated the leafs that were growing straight inward or if they were dead or dying I pulled them off then clips were used to start lowering some of those branches to re-establish a flat canopy since I no longer have the cage constriction to account for I can make her a little wider and even things out a bit. This morning is the last two pictures she is recovering greatly and has filled in alot of the bare spots
All the clips are off no more tie downs she is about as level as I could hope for now I am just gonna let her cruise thru the last bit of veg until we get into our new home then as soon as she takes a couple days to recover from the stress of moving houses in a dark box flip to flower is the next big milestone for her hopefully soon
Week 13 Day 96 going strong still definitely my just about my biggest plant to date... And man can she drink some water and use up nutrients was starting to notice some signs I may be having salt build up causing some lock out (yellowing leafs not praying anymore slight droop) so I took a couple waterings no feeding and just let her run thru what was already there some and gave her low EC water till her runoff EC was back under 2.0 again, she was hitting 3.1 which although I was feeding aggressive to see how the plant would respond (2.1-2 .6 feed EC a couple times) she handled it without any signs of issues no leaf burn no discoloration so I figured maybe I was just dealing with a super hungry girl cause she was growing fast then too and branches got thick fairly quickly. But then one morning I wake up and she's droopy I think no biggie she's just waking up but the. Two hours passed still pretty sad looking so I gave her distilled water to flush out some salts it ran yellow (none of my nutrients are yellow) and not just light yellow like dark dehydrated piss yellow I thought to myself fuck I went to hard and killed her. Lucky for me no just caused lockout so two or three waterings no feed just water .4 max EC and pH 6.3 every time she recovers in a couple days and so I fed her three days ago well she was showing signs of being hungry still so I fed her yesterday at dinner time 1 gallon of water 1.7 EC pH 6.2 and hit her with a foliar spray with .5 teaspoon of Epsom salt to help fix up that yellowing. Definitely not pushing feeds that hard again till mid flower when she needs that pk boost I'll go as high as 2.1-2.4 max but only if my runoff shows she can handle those numbers. Going to hydro store today need bloom nutes calmag and sillica as well as four 2 gallon fabric pots and one ten gal fabric pot to upsize everyone to a bigger pot or their first pot.
hasn't posted in a minute there's a good reason for that..Finally not bouncing around and sleeping in motels and Friends couches thank God so I gave the girls this closet to adjust to the new environment I tried using two lights at first but it was too much light it was causing them stress so I took it down to one light after a day and then also I hung my carbon filter up too because although they're only in veg you can smell them strong when doors open occasionally when closed I haven't had this with any of my other plants I think this is a good sign? Anyhow so this was the last two days they have been extremely happy in their new spot
I left a bigger plant where she was in the closet with the door as it provides more protection from light leaks still going to put a towel or something at the bottom of the door just insure no light gets thru. Then I put the smaller ones that still need a veg for a couple weeks into a bedroom closet I was going to use my spare bedroom closet but it's full of boxes right now from moving.so for now they get half of my closet but we shall see how everybody responds. Big plants lights off all night tonight and all day tomorrow until 6:00 p.m. and then I will start my 12 on 12 off cycle from 6:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. that way it is on and running during the cooler parts of the day instead of trying to come back heat and humidity during the warmer part of the day and the smaller ones will run from 4:00 a.m. until 10pm for their 18/6 schedule
Whats the strain?
FKAFL- that stands for formerly known as French Laundry LOL it was originally just French Laundry but a cease and desist order made Maven genetics the creator of the strain change it to FKAFL 🤣🤣🤷🤷
It's parent strains- mother was -the soap father was - LA Rouge
Haha sounds 🔥
Right! I think I'm gonna go get another on Tuesday since they give a free clone with purchase of a oz
Bro where you at? I might have to slide thru if its free lol
I'm in phoenix
Damn across state lines lol
Oz is 76 otd for top tier or 62 for mid tier which is still pretty decent and you save like 15 bucks or so
Yeah good ol AZ.. wya? The deal is cool tho you can choose indica or sativa
Im in Cali born and raised ☀️🌴🌴🌴
Ahh never been was supposed to go to San Diego with my daughter for her 18th bday and my 39th since our birthdays are like 3 hrs apart she's the 20th I'm the 21st of June but she said she would rather hang with her friend here so I'ma stay home and get baked haha
Thats. Hella cool yall share a birthday that close! If you're ever close to the capital, come have a smoke with me 🤣
Definitely would be down for that sometime.. this is what cannabis community is all about strangers coming together with mutual respect and interest in this plant which essentially made the concept of being up for a smoke sesh like that is possible! Same goes for you if you find yourself in the 602 hmu we can burn a blunt or two
Its all love growmie 🤙🏿🤟🏿 and hell yeah bro if I ever make a trip out there I got you