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They are coming along nicely. I have been noticing the dreaded fungus gnats. Yes, it's summer in the south and they can't be avoided especially with a wet media like coco. I plan to treat with both nemotodes tomorrow and try to stop this before they get big enough to go into the final home. There is a LOT more than goes with this grow. I just need to spend the time to figure out how it all works. Ah...I just thought I lost the post, but now I'm figuring the app out! I'll update the main About with the correct text, so anyone who is interested in this experiment can get the info.
U can use 3ml of the 3% hydrogen piroxide per gallon of water to kill eggs and use the pest glue traps for adults then you gotta let her get pretty dry before waterings i had the same problem and this helped
Thank you! I have only seen a few. I dosed with nemotodes so I'm hoping the larvae are food by the time they go in their final home.
I'm up to 2 fertigations a day. Today is day 1. They are already looking hungry so I'm going up to .87 from .77 on the nutrients. My pH I'm going to raise a bit ( from 6.0 to 6.2) for calcium uptake because I'm seeing a twist on more than one leaf. I'll also get a CalMag foilar spray ready in case it persists. I recently change my nutrients "recipe" and Ibe went up on the CalMag supplement by 50%. So the pH trick and increase may be enough. I'll be watching.
I treated with granular nemotodes spread across the perlite on the coco. I was going to add a BTI dunk but it's just too soon for all that. I thought about it though. Hopefully the few Ive seen haven't done too much damage in laying eggs.
Well.. I wasnt going to post again untill transplant or immediately after but I made a dumb ass mistake early in the first days and I had to fix it last night. I also needed to document it. I'm sure it was a bit stressful to them, but worst case scenario they will be going into a new environment in just a few days. Until then I'll just watch them and continue as usual.
What I neglected to do was
I didn't allow for any runoff the first 2 days and only a little the 3rd day, and then I picked up with 10 to 20% run off by the 4th, but it was too late. I must have temporarily lost my damn mind because I know better than that. On a whim last night I decided to just check the run off and it was right at 3.0!! Yeh. I knew immediately what I did wrong. Trying to take on too much at once. Well... I flushed them back down to just about 1.0 with nutrient solution. It took longer than I wanted but I had to do it slow and I didn't want to strip the coco of the CalMag. I think it came out ok, the pH is trending high but that is not unusual after a flush. They look good. Hopefully I want drop the damn ball again and make another dumb ass mistake. I misted them with Calimagic. The pH being highayne that was a good thing. I'll see what they lookime after work and hopefully they are still getting the color back.
They all calmed right down. pH is in range for all plants and the EC is just under 1.0. One little plant had spiked to 1.4 because I didnt hit her as hard the nigjt before and had to re flush her to get it back down. This time I was forced to use a touch of Flora Kleen. Salts wouldn't budge. The FK lossened em right up. Then I used nutes to get it to about 943., pH was 5.9. The difference 6 hours late was noticable right away. Still looks a bit "hungry" but we'll get there. I still have to 86 one of these.
Very precise 👌🏿
These little guys are really coming along well. I think I finally have them @ the right EC. I have noticed that when the lights come on, they look a little pale, but after the second fertigation, they are nice and green again. I love coco. It's a bit more forgiving than dwc, but much faster to show results than living soil (of course) you can dial in exactly what your plants need. With soil, organics, by the time you see an issue, it's difficult to eradicate because of how the nutrients are processed. It can takes weeks, so you really need to know your plants needs ahead of time and get out in front of any issues. Foilar feeding can help this but you can't do it in flower. It's a double edged sword. The same is true for negative situations. It can happen just as fast. Still. There is something to be said about a good living soil, and the use of ferments, and light salt drenches to boost flower production. This is known as synganics and it can rival hydroponics if you have your shit together. As far as any issues with these females. I do still see minor Ca issues. Nothing bad, just some twists in the leaves that's indicative of an early Calcium deficiency. I usually have it fixed by the transplant and it usually always shows a little bit I'm the seedling stage.
Nice nice and glad to see that your having a good time with coco! I love growing with it I am currently just a week into my first time growing from clone and soil as well I kinda wanna switch her over to coco when I upsize from this 1/2 gal pot to 1gal here soon or if it wouldn't hurt or stunt her too bad
With cocca it depletes calcuim your plants probably need cal/ mag to be honest with u . Peat drains it too
They are. See my latest post and you'll understand why. wait.. did you even read this post before commenting?
Ok yes I did but I also looked at your plants sorry for caring
Oh for heavens sake. I didn't mean it that way.
Maybe u should start out by saying I know everything I don’t need help . I see u jumping on people every time they say something on your post I’d suggest not posting if u don’t like what people have to say obviously u know it all lol
Sorry if I offended. Have a nice day.
This is all due to my previous mistake when I neglected to implement enough or any runoff for the first 3 days. That was bad enough but I panicked just a tad and flushed them too hard. So what that managed to do was release all the Calcium and Magnesium that was previously buffered in. Now every time I feed all the CalMag is going into the coco and then plants are left holding the bag! I transplant in 2 days but I have treated them all with a full strength dose of CaliMagic. These plants are in the Foilar stance where I treat them and then let them absorb the nutes without too much light that could possibly burn them. On the next scheduled fertigation I am going to attempt an in-plant rebuffering. They are up to 1.0, 1.2 EC in the rootzone so I think they'll be ok. When the lights come on I'll replace the regular nutrients they'd normally get with calmag water and try to not have too much runoff. Then I'll resume normal feeding @ the next event. That should do it. I thought about doing it before, but that's as far as it got. Now I need to do it because I see it's definitely the culprit.
I would just up pot them since ur gonna need to soon anyway with a bigger pot and new soil should change eveything they dont look bad i dont add cal mag till 3rd week of flower u will know when u need cal mag the leaves will turn really yellow on center leaves and bottom looks different from ph cause bad ph will do the whole plant but urs look green but there going to get root bound soon those pots are small
It's a bit different with coco. It's not soil. This is hydroponics. I explained it all in the post. If you don't handle stuff when you see signs it can go bad in as little as 12 hours... Especially when you buffer zone is so small. I'll up pot when I have more perlite in 2 days. They'll be fine. I'm just using this site as intended to document every aspect of the grow. They won't get rootbound in another 2 days. they barely have 3 nodes.
Didnt realise i have been transplanting from soil to dwc and im using vivosun a/b it has the cal mag in it so ive been using it when i was not in soil just didnt know it i also switch to farmers secret during flower they love it
I think you can do that safely dude. The plants are pretty resilient. I do know that the roots develop different little hairs in soil than in water. I don't know the proper term man, and I'm pretty stoned. If you go from water to soil they have to harden off so you keep that soil wet AF a few days and then they take off. But going from soil to dwc... I have no experience. But It sounds like it works for you.
Yea this is only second time if u look at my last post u can see i had to wash all the soil off was so scared the first time i chopped like 1/4 of the roots cause they were too covered in soil i didnt wash them correcty i did 2 they both recovered within a week but scary week the one that i cut dud just fine an so did the other lota of room to grow down into o ly hard part is getting the plant to stay in position withput soil lol the pebbels do it but unstable as hell u gott build it up as u go once tgere established there fine but right now there like just sitting there also im using a culligan zero water filters it has a meter built in and its way cheaper than a r/o system
I would have been sweating balls man... These plants are pretty resilient. They want to live but sometimes it takes a turn and you just gotta do it. I have to check that out.
The transplant was yesterday actually. They were ready. Ok.. the coco I bought was supposed to be "triple washed low EC and buffered." I tested it just to be safe and it was right at 3.0. Wtf?! 3.0?!? Man that's crazy!! So It took me 24 hours to get that shit right. At least I hope it is. I gotta tell ya, I'm a bit worried. They have some issues with clawing leaves but not the N claw. The leaves are kind of tacoed, but not really tacoing from heat. I think it's because I flushed the ever loving.... Well it was too much. So it must have stripped the exchange sites of calcium and Mg. I figured that out a week ago, but let it ride. So here we are. And there they are. The system works great. Gotta do some work on the drain to waste that isn't drain to waste .. yet. I still have them on early veg equal portion base nutes and 3mg per gal calmag. EC inflow is 1.1 . Just waiting to see if they perk up.
They will... But you guys know it always feels when it's just not right yet, don't you? Kinda leaves you a bit down all day. Anyway, the run off is really low. It wavearges about 0.4 EC. So that means the run off is pulling out my salts a bit, too, soon. So I'm going to cut a minute off the drip time each event and see if I can gradually raise the EC. I'll let you know if it works!
Niceee
Day 17
Three days in the new home and I'm still withholding runoff in an attempt to gradually raise the rootzone EC to where it needs to be. I force a bit through at the 6am event so I can check. Right now for 5 of these beauties that's about a difference of 0.6! Holy shit. We'll get there. One of them was up to 0.8 . Not sure what the hell that's all about.. but I'm watching to see what happens. So... Let's see what tomorrow holds.
I'm still hanging on to the one that I didn't bring over. I may still keep her yet.
It's been a while. I've had a rough week or so. Lost my job about transplant time so my heads all fucked up. I believe wholeheartedly that it's caused me to make some stupid, unintentional, newb mistakes. Had I been employed I'd have never had the time to do what I had to do the past 7 or so days to get these little fuckers back into shape. But had my head not been so fucked, maybe I'd not made these dumb ass mistakes! (Over flushing as seedlings, transplanting into coco that was extremely undercharged.) That last one took 6 days of hand feeding every 6 hours, precise amounts of solution to try and localize the rootzones. Some were way too high, others were still too low. So I had to work each individually till they were all about 1.0 and then I put them back on the teet. I do not plan on being unemployed another week so it's Important I get them closet to being self sufficient to a point.
They are on the up swing. Topped them yesterday. A bit early due to their condition but theyll be ok. I am going to swap out #7 for #2. I decided to keep the one that didn't make the cut just to see. And she really came back. Looks better than the whole tent. But that's because she didn't have to deal with a rootzone that was too mild. I retrofitted the irrigation system so that I can really slow the drip. My theory is, and so for it seems to pan out, to slow it enough that it all gets wet before the runoff breaks the "seal" at the bottom of the pot. Also.. I over compacted the coco in #7. I don't think that has been an issue. I believe the 2 zones are close enough I can implement a transplant safely. I have yet to do it so if I do I'll post an update.
My dedicated portable AC went out as well. Luckily I do have central AC in the house but I've always had to have an ac before so I naturally defaulted to the status quo here. But guess what? I really don't need it. This tent is about 1/3 of what I normally run, so I'm able to just boost the register with a fan and it does very well. No more humidity spikes due the the ac flooding the lung room with outside air.
Best of luck brother everything will work out best wishes
Yeh man... Thanks for that.
Yeh man... Thanks for that.
Brother you will be good just keep your head up and keep at it nothing else to do you know
They are doing really well. Rootzones are better. Low, but the plants have adjusted. Or so it seems they are looking happier. I had to reset the irrigation system because 2 plants were a bit lighter with almost no runoff. Luckily the EC was low enough that it actually helped. Thank my higher power for that dumb luck. I could look at them and tell that there was no emergency, but I still need data. This time I simulated the height the emitters would be instead of just letting them sit in the individual reservoirs. And I think that made a difference. These genetics are strong. Now.. I did fuck up again. #3. I had to sacrifice an entire node! I was using an xacto to take the top and I slipped. Cutting off one of the new tops. Lmao. There are no words for how stupid I felt. I knew this would happen. Ok. So it is what it is. I decided not to transplant #2 into #7. It just makes no sense. The transplant will cause a slow down and by then #7 will have recovered anyway. So I'm just gonna let her grow enough in the cup so I can take 2 cuttings. I'll root them with the rest.. that way I'll not lose a shot at something that could be nice. I took some large fan leaves off of 3 of them because they were sharing the lateral tops. LST at this point makes no sense. They will never stay put as much as I'm in here. And these are photos. It'll slow them down a day but they need that so the others can catch up. All in all, I wish the irrigation at was easier to tweak but I'm happy with what I been able to pull off. This one is keeping me on my toes y'all!
These girls took off! Color looks almost perfect. They put on about 1/2" of growth since yesterday so they are getting right. Still not seeing the run off i expect to see. But that may be due to different density levels in each pot. They read well for now.
Plants look great. But it's hot man.. I thought my central air would do a little bit better than this shit. The
sun just bakes my grow room from 12pm on, so the whole house gets up to 81°. Except my bedroom. It's in the back and stays cool. I'm seriously thinking about swapping to the hot room and giving the cool one to my plants. Well.. let's not get too carried away here.. One of the ducts I just learned, is ripped all to shit so as soon as that's fixed I'll see if it helps. If not, we'll see what happens after.
If it's not one thing... I am having some really funky issues with the electricity in this house. There is hardly any power! It has progressively gone straight down hill since I moved in. I can't even get enough juice to run my air fryer or my microwave. Like... Wtf?!? I have contacted the property manager about this shit but it only really gets bad after 7 or 8 after the AC has ran non stop trying to cool the place down. It's like there's a throttle on the power. Idk what the hell is going to happen but I will probably have to squash this grow so they can fix it. It's absolutely ridiculous that I have to turn off everything in the fucking house to microwave a goddamn burrito!
The plants look magnificent. I just got it all in sync. It's too hot, but that's because of all this. So my portable AC isn't broken. It just can't draw enough power from the house to start up.
Does anyone have any idea wtf would cause this? I do know every receptacle in this house is an open ground. I did not know this before I moved in. But the maintenance guy I called about the fridge said all the receptacles are open..
I think this is the beginning of the end y'all. My setup only pulls a few hundred watts at most and I have everything divided up. I live alone and my shit doesn't even draw as much power as a kids bedroom. Besides that, we're talking one tv, some ceiling fans. Microwave, air fryer, stove.. but not at the same time. This has me so pissed off.
I'll let you know what happens. If anyone has any idea what is going on, I'm all ears and eyes.
I dont knot shit about the electricity but that's some sad new outdoor grow lol?
Are the receptacles a two prong or 3? Sounds like a ground issue. Open ground is a bit sketchy. If they are 3 prong switch to a two prong outlet. Try a volt meter to see what your current is. Otherwise try using a gfci outlet or breaker. If you choose the breaker make sure it’s the correct amps for the wiring. Most older homes have 15 amps wires.
They are all 3 prong. But they are clearly marked that they don't have grounds. And a lot of my devices, are 3 prong so a 2 prong won't help. I could use an adapter but we're right back where we started. And I didn't even notice that when I rented the damn house. What I've read is it's expensive af to fix this issue right, the right way I don't have to pay for it, but I don't know if they will fix it. But if they don't, this place is barely livable like this. No matter my little measley grow room. We're talking 400 watts maybe. Any idea how they could actually fix this shit so I can live a normal life? It can be done, right?
no space my man... I don't have any issue whatsoever snatches these plants up. It is what it is. It's sad and I may miss a nice mother plant, but dude... If I can't even microwave a fucking burrito at midnight, how TF can I grow, anything?! Damn man. Lost my job, got no power. Lol... Wtf is next?
If they installed the outlets than they are in violation of the NEC. Which means they can’t legally do that. It’s really unsafe to have them. You may have a loose neutral wire on an outlet some where, causing power drops. Or a bad outlet causing it.
Ah... Ok.. so it could be localized. And may be an easy fix. Strangely, the issues got worse over time. And they are worse later in the day/night. Yeh. I wish I could attach a pic to this comment .. new feature idea.. all the outlets have a sticker that says "No Equipment Ground" I swear I didn't see that untill after I was moving in. But yeh. And I one of my main reasons was to continue my grows here so had I seen that, immediately I'd have thought twice. well damn dude.. the pit the stickers on, so that proves they knew there was no way to ground them.
I'm still at it! And the girls are doing well. Not perfect. But good enough. It looks like I'm stuck with the power as it is. Old ass house is what they tell me. All the plugs are reading 115 or higher, but I can't run the microwave or the air fryer. Man I use that air fryer a lot. They are trying to say it's bad. That they both are bad. And my portable AC.. that's bad too. As long as I can run my lights on 80% everything else is what it is.
I am still only feeding these plants a lowish EC diet. Input is still 1.1. 2 of them are just perfect.amd the others still annoy low, but they have really adjusted. I cut off #4 for 2 events hoping the EC will rise and it worked like a charm.
I am going to let them go about another week and then I'm going to take clones. I hope they are mature enough. Else they won't root very well. They should be. After that I'll cut them back and start to shape them up for the flower cycle.
Yea they look great maybe check differnt plugs around the house could be on same circut so maybe run exension cords or move ur setup closer to a differnt plug but i would run the extensions first to see if they do it or just go to ur box and switch the 1 off at a time see what turns off then move to plugs individual stuff that pulls alot i have the same deal when a/cs are going so i moved everything
Done that. The grow is ok so far. I've taken the air fryer all over the damn house and it's ther same deal. It comes on, but that's it. Maybe it's shot. I'm done worrying about it. As long as it's safe,and they tell me it is. Plants look great. Have a few that want to get out ahead of the rest but 6 different phenos, that's gonna happen. I'm an hour away from lights off and the plants are laying down In anticipation of the dark cycle. They always look so sad and if I didnt know better id be panicking a bit but that is how they do. They start to lay down about 2 hours before lights out. And then they come right back a little before they come back on. No real issues with them. And it's about effing time. I've never had more difficulty with a grow in my life! Lol. I'm ready for the next phase. Thanks for stopping by man.
Got rid of my 1100 watt microwave because we couldn't reheat anything after 6pm 🤣 plants are great tho 🤙🏿
Lol.. is that right? I'm getting Used to it. I have accepted the fact that it's not going to change and as long as it's safe, and my grow isnt affected. I'm good. And I've been here the past 3 effing weeks so I know it as well as any grow I've ever produced. So it seems ok. I do hate losing the air fryer. A ninja that's only 1 month old.
Next step.... Recover, 3 to 5 days -> Flower. I have taken 4 cuttings from each plant. They are just barely mature enough so I hope they root. #6 was my strongest plant. And as such, she was a bit ahead of the others. I had to cut her back pretty far but I left 2 tops on each plant. So.. 3 to 5 days once I see them recover, I'll flip to flower. Now, I'm not looking for yield here, so I dont expect much. But it'll be enough for me to add to my collection and make a decision on one.
.. or two. I'm only interested in how they flower, and hopefully I didn't jump the gun on the cuttings. I only need 1 representative of each plant. I think I overdid it, shit , I know I did on #6, but hopefully she will still produce a decent example of her phenotype. As strong as she has been, I'm expecting her to come back.
Those seed starter pellets your using those look good. What brand are those? Do you like them?
There we go he's still at it let's go been off for little been busy but glad to see you still at it everything good still?
Yeh, start a new job in the morning and the power is ok. It took me forever to dial that damn irrigation system in but at this point I've got every emitters putting out almost the same amount all around. The difference is almost unnoticeable so I'm happy.
Just your basic peat pods. The little tray has little troughs between them and I inserted a small cotton wick under each pod so they stay wet. I just have to keep it full and it goes down every 15 hours. I just need 1 each to root.
That's right brother fuck glad to see you doing good now yeah I was having problems with my irrigation system as well it was getting like 93 degrees and I can't let it get past 72 so I'm trying to figure what to do I baugth one of those water cooling thing but it went up 76
That’s cool I wouldn’t have thought of that. I might try that
Yeh, I have been just swapping out frozen bottles. Hydroguard will help with the heat. It won't make it cooler, but it helps them when it's hot. Currently I'm still on a 5gal bucket and changing it every 3 days. But I have a spider farmer 50l reservoir once they need more. Your plants really do look healthy bro. Mine are ok, I wish I'd have thought more before I scalped #6, but I think she'll still show me what she can do.
One more day. Damn they look good. One is hurting but she's gonna have to get her shit together soon because Im flipping the switch probably tomorrow night. I only have about 3 feet of head room and I have no idea how much they will stretch. It hasnt even been 3 days and they have already recovered and put on about 1.5" of growth. They are all praying and looking happy as soon as the lights come on. I just went back to work and I am trying to work it so they are sleeping while I'm working my 12 hour shifts. I only hope I can keep the humidity at bay for 12 hours of dark. The night cycle can be testy, but if I can keep the lung room about 40% RH, it should work like a charm.
Upping the inflow to 1.3 from 1.23 . Keeping an aggressive veg recipe to tackle the stretch, and as soon as I see pisitls, I'll start to back down a bit to a transitional recipe. I hope they don't get stupid in the stretch. With 6 phenos. 1 might go 2x, 2 may go 3x and the others may not stretch much at all. Too soon to say but I may have tie some down.
Whatever. Let's see what happens when we flip the switch!
Very nice very nice
Noice! Look good bub, I’ve got a question is that a light diffuser in the left hand part of the pics?
So ur light could be alot closer and with training u could have alot more volume per plant thats why i only do 2 cause i get em bigger before i flip but i also keep them as short as i can so with training and the light as close as possible they explode and then the trellis to keep them from getting too close even if i have to supercrop to keep the light as close as possible without overheating my 2 plants will probably get more weight than the 6 u got going i got 6oz of each last time and this time i got them even shorter
I know... But this grow is t about yield. I have a huge 6" fan and an 8" scrubber. So that takes up 1.5 feet. It's only a 5 foot tent. This grow is about seeing how each plant buds so I can pick the one I like best. Then next run, I'll grow all clones and then I'll know exactly how much they stretch.. etc. I don't need pot. I've got poinds and pounds. I'm just looking for a particular clone with certain traits that I can keep and cross. It's all about the gro man. I couldnt really care less about smoking it. now.. if this shit is as good as it's supposed to be.. maybe I'll want to smoke more. But I have so many different strains on hand and they all make me feel exactly the same. I'm hoping for something different, and when I find that. then maybe I'll care about yield.
Lol... Naw bro.. those are sticky traps. It it does give off a yellow looking glow. Haha.
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Yeh bro.... I know that's not what you expected to hear. I just don't get high anymore. I get a buzz. I've already grown just about everything you can think of and that's why I'm so particular anymore about the genetics. They say this shit hits different, so I'm going to look through every pack of these elite crosses I have and hunt for 2 or 3 really nice females. Maybe I'll find one I can grow over and over, or 2. Who knows. But I love growing em and all the shit that pops up during the grow. I used to train them, maximize the yield. Hell, I even trained one once to grow like a fucking apple tree. This plant is unique. And it's medicine as a bonus. I just wish I still enjoyed it like I had to..
Yea i was at the same point only gettting a buz till i started using humidty packs and cure bags my stuff was drying out and cleaing my pipe lol i also smoke less now too
I made this a couple days back. Could not get it to load. I decided to give these girls another day or 2 of veg. I'm going to bump up the EC a bit first.
I’ve had some trouble with video too I usually have to close out app and restart my phone or wait a day or so
I didn't even realize this finally went through! Lmao.. edit .. oh it didn't go through. well shit.
lol well maybe the next one will grow through, you usually got good pics
12/12 starting today... Or the next dark cycle Im extending to 12 hours. These girls look good y'all. #6 is presenting Ca defeciency because it was getting too much runoff and that Inturn washed out some of the nutrients. She was nice at 1.2, now she's at .9 . So yeh. That why she's deficient. But I'm going ahead because the new growth looks good. She'll catch up.
I'm gonna wait another couple days.
It’s looking good
I'll try later when I get home. I decided to wait a few more days. I keep uppong my EC inflow. I think I'll check em again after work tonight (I get off at 2am) and if they still look vibrant and greener than yesterday I'll flip tomorrow. I am going to hate losing access to my grow for 12 hours. That's the only thing I like about autos.
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I'm about to switch mine two im giving them 24 hrs just for this week they got like 3 more days of 24 lol don't got enough space now :(
Wait your gonna switch them but there small
Yes they are. But stick around. These little plants will produce an oz each. So, this grow isn't about how much weed I can get. It's to determine if I want to keep the corresponding clones and run the one I like best. If I like any of them. It's a pheno hunt. A micro hunt. If I do find one that sings to me, I'll run that one again but from clone next time.
Aww ok well I. Not going anywhere lol
Haha. I forgot to reset my timer last night after flushing my system and I left them on feed for over a fucking hour today! Omfg.. almost totally washed out the damn rootzone. My god. Poor plants.
Hahah nah they should be fine it was only an hr not like days
You're right. Man I just panicked cause I know when I hand feed them, that shit can drop fast! But then I realized the emitters don't spread it like I do because I use a 60ml syringe.and a sweeping motion.
I mean.... Dude. If it ain't one thing . I made a serious, idiotic, dumb ass mistake because I did not pay attention and I should have just went to sleep!
Got off at 3am. Came home and started working in the garden. I had to reset some events on my timer, and I had to flush the irrigation system due to build up. Got it all done but I forgot to reset the stop time on the 6pm feeding.
So they all took about 2 gallons of nutrients over and hour! A fucking hour!! That could have washed all the nutrients out on the rootzone and could have even stripped the cations of all the CalMag I spent 2 days buffering!
The EC is now between .7 and 1.1. they should all be in the 1.4-1.6 range. So this may set them back days ... Or weeks. It could have been worse.
I should have went to bed and waited till I was rested. So now, if they don't go too far downhill after this. There will be a recovery time. I need to let them recover. I'll skip one event, and tomorrow I'll defol again. Let them recover. And then I'll flip. Idk how long exactly, it will take. But I can't let them get much bigger.
My first 3 grows with coco and automated fertigations went like clockwork. Had some issues on 5 and 6, but I have made every mistake an idiot could make on this grow. But I'll still bring em home. Some day.
I dude I feel ya I’m bad to dabble when I should let things be. And sounds like it’s not a total loss. Any day above ground is a good so to speak
We've all had our stupid moments... Hopefully they bounce back soon.
They came back better than I could be hoped for. I'm kind of impressed with how they didn't even budge.
No shit . I got lucky this time. They seem to have popped right back.
Dude that’s awesome but that prob because you had kept them up so good before that happened. All that time and effort paid off
They look even better than the last pic I've left them for 8 hrs and they were fine lol I've all ways said what doesn't kill them makes them stonger
Ha! Yeh.. Shit, they have finally taken off. I'm gonna be super cropping a couple tops in there. They go to 12/12 today at 12pm. Then I gotta deal with the dark cycle for 12 hours. I hate autos, but there is something to be said about only losing 6 hours a day! I just never get the quality I want out of autos.
I got everything dialed. And it's flower tme!
This app is all fucked up on my end. I just totally deleted a post. Ok
Hers the post I thought went up 2 posts again!
They look great. Go into flower at noon!
I can't get it to upload. I'll try again later.
Nice man, these all looks very happy 🌺😎
Man beautiful lime green I love it
The do man. It took a minute to get them right. I made a few mistakes out the gate that took a while to stabilize which is why they are so short. But that's a good thing. They went 12/12 today and I bet a couple phenos are going to go ape shit In this little tent. But I'll make them heel.
Y'all wanna know how dedicated I am to the grow? How bout, I'm giving up the cool bedroom that stays a nice 72 no matter how hot it gets, for the front room that gets up to 81° from 4pm to about 11pm... It's the room on the front where the sun sets and it just bakes that part of the house. My portable AC can't get enough power to run so I can't get the temps on the dark cycle to go below 81. That ain't good. At all. But... That damn dehu is one of the reasons is stays so goddamn hot! It puts out heat akin to a damn heater and it's almost impossible to keep it cool anyway. But In the front room, and in the summer too?.. shit.. I will mostly only be home after 3am anyway .... But I gotta go home tonight and make the swap. It's gonna be in the 100s for the next week, so I have no choice. I don't think they will fair well in 80° heat for hours in the dark cycle. It's a no brainer for me. What do y'all think? Suffer for the plants?
No new pics. They sleeping now.. in 81° heat..
Edit: not too bad at 8:48pm the humidity has dropped and the temps dropped a bit. Still too hot for the dark. I'd like them to be below 74 at night, all night. So I think moving them is the correct course of action.
Got er dialed in, don’t ya
You ain’t going to let that mess up your perfect season lol like my grandpa with baseball
I'm thinking after I do this one thing. I should be good. Everything is ok except the temps. They have started to drop a couple degrees... But it only got up to 94° today. I'll be happier to get them on a more consistent regimen. Honestly, I can't say for sure how they will fair in such high night temps. They could be ok. I do know, they value consistency over perfection.
True, I would say add a fan but I don’t know how much that messes with humidity in a tent. We have used in green house on hot nights before one on each end to keep the air circulating
It just moves the hot air. I've got a fan on the register to boost the ac. You can feel it, but it's the position of the house and the dehu. The dehu alone adds 4° to 5° . I should have made this move weeks ago and I just was hoping for the best. This will set it right. Until something else pops up. That's growing man... Ive never had a single grow go perfect start to finish. "Way she goes boys .. Way she goes!"
Right once you think you got everything good, nope something pops up
Nice
Much better!!
I spent, 4.5 hours moving everything out of my bedroom, and relocated the bulk of my grow, into it. I'll do the rest tonight. It paid off. Check out the temps at 6ish I'n the evening. It's about 96 out there. They are considerably better and still dropping. I just got it semi dialed. In the other room. Like I said, 81, and that's in the dark. So now I have to run the dehu balls out so it keeps it dry enough to deal with the colder temps and the dark! The heat from the dehu battles the torrent of cold air blasting in this room because the register is about 3 feet from the actual unit. Before, it was too much. Now I have to figure out the best way to throttle it. But it's working. Glad I bought the bigger heat producing air dryer now! It's been 2 days of flower and they look well.
This is a new house. First grow in it. But it's like all of them. A delicate juggling match between the things you can control, while relying heavily on the mercy of the things you cannot. Money is the main obstacle here. But we always find a way toake it work, don't we?
Started super cropping the tallest in an attempt to control the canopy. It'll be interesting to see how tha shapes up. I expect them to be turned up by lights on.
That’s awesome when my daughter goes back to college I’m going to put a tent in there. When you super crop and mash and pull them over do you put tape or anything around the area you bent? I’ve ppl do it with and with anything but just wondering how you did yours
I actually made a video explaining it. I havent tried to upload.. I will late. But no... You only need tape if you snap it. Nice and easy. You just knead ever so softly all the way around. When you do it you'll see. You are just weakening the stem enough that it folds in the direction you want. And then just put a lose tie in the position you want her to fold at. It'll take inches off the height. But at this stage. I will have to do it a few times. As long as they stay somewhat equal and don't stretch 10x . Dear God.... I won't do it much more.
Cool.. I'm thinking I'm 2x your age and we about the same age, lmao. I always assume I'm the oldest idiot In the room.
lol I started young I had my 1st kid at 17 but I’m 44 years old and have a grandbaby lol but I like everything from horror movies and retro video games to grow and woodworking. I’ve got way to many history books
I'm early in ma 50s.... No kids. No wife. I lost the love of my life to suicide when I was in my early 20s and I never really recovered well enough to let another in. But that's another story and things happen for a reason. I'm way too set in my ways now and I don't even get lonely these days. I have way too many hobbies. Growing, flint knapping, planted aquariums, and I love history too. Did you see the video I uploaded with the one I cropped? You'll see where it's going in about 2 weeks. I hope. They always act differently in the stretch.
Now that's what's up
They had me in mind when they made this. I can control the air coming out of the register deending on the temp. So when the dehu isnt on as much, throttle down. When dehu is pushing up the heat, bump up the fan. I am going to upgrade to Home Assistant after this grow. I've got most of the sensors, I just need an exhaust fan. Then I think I can script my own logic using Python via appDaemon. I know Python quite well, Golang, JS... but I don't code much anymore. There isn't enough time in the day. It'll be easier to pick out humidty spikes, and control the VPD and temp instead of just prioritizing one, and leaving the other behind.
AC infinity is good stuff, it's just isn't very customable. However this vent fan with the app provided is almost as good as a dedicated AC especially when yours is as out of control as mine!
lol they had you pegged on that one. I’ve been seeing a lot more ac infinity stuff online more so they must be selling
My girls are sitting pretty since I gave up the bedroom! It wasn't even a choice! I'm other news. They are doing well. Just starting to stretch believe it or not. I had to seal up the light leaks I missed. Reset the irrigation system after the move. Of course that had to 2 done. New pics from last night.
Videos are working! But no sound. That's on my end. And honestly, I have no idea what I was saying.
Sounds like no real hitches in moving and already working like before. Great job bub
Well.. I hate to say it but I took off yesterday to make sure I got all the bugs out the system. I was lucky enough to land an amazing job. I got the offer letter yesterday so in lieu of that, and the need to get it right. I took the day and made changes all day long until I got to purr. I knew that dehu got hot, but damn dude. It's a heater. Luckily... They compliment each other. The constant barrage of cold air and the heat from the dehu. Now I need to get that smart register fan, so I can make adjustments remotely cause when the dehu doesn't run on a dry day, it'll get down to 72 with the lights on! So I need to be able to control the air. That's all. Lol
Congrats on the job. Yeah I prob done the same thing lol but at least you got it where you want it and the only thing that’s not locked in you know about sounds like you got a plan for. I f.’ed up today I came home from the doc with one of my plants showing major signs of heat stress it only got a couple of degrees hotter today then yesterday but when I checked the feels like temp it got up to 101 luckily the damage only seems to be the big older fan leafs so I think I’m good over all so tomorrow I’ll have to try some shading tomorrow if it gets like that again
Luckily, every day won't be like that. I hate to see em stressed. But they can take a beating. In a few more days they'll be twice the size they are now!
I need to get a raised box set up or a greenhouse that I can take the top down when I need to
You can hand flower them that way. If you can get it dark enough between 6 and 9. But yeh, that's ideal for given them some shade. It's amazing what we do for out plants man. I literally movey life around what I'm growing. I don't know if that's sad, or healthy. But it keeps ME happy.
That would be my goal someday have a greenhouse I could black out just for that reason. And in my opinion if your mental health is good then it’s healthy do what makes ya happy. Ppl spend a lot if time doing shit for others or doing things they hate so anytime you can get some peace of mind and be happy you better jump on that
At least one of each of the 6 are showing a root or two! So now I'm about to have a bunch of little ones too! I really didnt expect these to root y'all because they weren't mature. But everything Ive done to these genetics just seems to roll right off their backs and turn out positive. **Knock on wood** I'll pick one of the each and toss the rest. Hell I may let them all grow and if these plants are as good as I hope, I'll give them away. It's been 12 days... So yeh, that's about right. Soon they will have roots all over!! If I don't kil em!!
That’s awesome
I broke the right top an #7. I was adjusting the tie and snapped it at the joint. But it wasn't a full break. I think enough is hanging on to facilitate a repair. Time will tell. Day 3. They are just getting used to the longer nights and the temps are more stable. My goal is for 2 tops on each pheno. One has 3. #4 has 3. And I may leave all 3. The more tops the smaller the main buds will be and I don't want that. I just want to observe the way they stack. So far, the internodal lengths on these are extremely short. Except #6 and #4. They are the longer ones. If I lose one top on #7, I'll be down to one and that's ok. But I should have been more careful. I think she can repair but I'll know for sure if the top stays alive. If it was too much it will die. A little surgical tape will keep it together and I'm my experience, as long as there's a connection, they will survive. But it's gonna slow it down! Damn it.. they are still too pale. My inflow is about 1.4. I'm foilar feeding every few days to help and they love that. Some leaves are getting huge. I like to leave one or 2 on each to help with uptake, and I like the way they look. I'm working hard to keep the tent flow open. Defol a leaf here and there almost daily. Still losing branches too. This sculpture will go on a bit longer.
Clones are popping more roots. I changed from plain water to mild nutrients because the ones that are now growing roots look worse than the ones that haven't shown yet. Hopefully it's not too soon for that. The pods have 0 nutrients so once they get roots they start to want their vitamins. I'm still not sure how I'm going to keep them. But I'll figure it out.
Sindssygt!! 🤞🏽🙌🏽💪🏽😎😎😅✌🏽
Should be fine... I had a plant that I ignored for far too long and it's stem got thick and hardened before I could train it. Snapped EVERY.DAMN.LIMB. Used duct Tape and 2 weeks later she's a happy girl. It's my Punch Mints grow I just listed. GL.
Still looks unphased, it may shake this off like nothing happened lol
Yea, she looks like that isn’t gonna phase her brotha 😎💪🏽💯
I didn't tie it back because it was broken. But damn if she didn't almost totally straighten up in 24 hours! I almost broke her again tying it back. Lol. I won't do this again unless absolutely necessary. I'll just LST them like the one I did tonight.
So sweet
#6 y'all.. let's talk about her. This plant has performed like a star from day one. Out of all the cuttings, she has 3 out of 4 with roots! I still need # 7 and #1. Yeh, #7 is the one I broke like a dumb ass. However.. I have adjusted my stance on the whole supercropping thing and decided to LST first. I should have tried that first but I just wanted to do it.. and you see what happened! The pics speak to a softer alternative and I'll reserve the brute force for when they really act up.
Irrigation system on point. I changed the nutrients to a transitional recipe. Basically I just took 5 from the micro and added It to the bloom. And upped all by 2ml to reach my target EC.
Nice
Like your medium
I take it back lol there not small they grew like bamboo that's right bro
Man the color on those they look so healthy, I read your notes but is it looking like the one that broke is going to be ok? And dude I like your set up looks amazing and easy to get to what you need
Haha.. they just started to stretch too. Pretty soon I won't need to cut any more off of them and they can just... Flower. But with this little setup, and my goals, they won't be allowed to do anything but go up a bit. Two tops per plant. Well.. #6 gets 3... Fucking #6. She might go all the way.
Man.. this grow has kept me on my toes. I have ran cocoamy times, but I just dropped the ball so many times. I think Ive got it straight now!
Yeh.. she's good. great. as long as ther is a connection, I just have to be careful. That's most of it. I have another lil tent on the left that is the same footprint but 3" tall. I have actually stuck #2 in some soil I've been cooking since December. I'm going to see how she fairs. Planning to set it up as another grow on here.
Seeing the size of your tent I totally get it I say all of them look pretty great with allot training and allot of pot movement its doable
The more the Marrier lol I already know if money wasn’t an option I would have more then I could handle lol
Bought my entire setup when I was making good money. I had not grown for years and I just got back into it in 2023. I must have rebought just about everything I have 2x because I didn't get the right stuff the first time, or it just wasn't enough. The bugs I had to work out of the system were staggering. I bet I spent..... Jeez, 4k altogether. I do have a much larger tent. I've got a 3x5x7 that I can pull over a pound out of without even trying. But it takes too much power to run and given all the electrical problems I have in this new house.. what Im Currently running is all it will sustain. Or all I feel comfortable running. Luckily I don't weed. I have more than I need and it's all about the grow. I just love the grow man. It's what I get out of bed for these days.
I’ve seen some of your stuff in the pics and it all looks top quality but I did the same thing with my woodworking tools I bought the best i could afford at the time and if need be I would get what I could and start saving for the better one I’m a strong believer in when it comes to tools you get what you paid for and I like using the best I can get or what I think is the best
These devices, many of them have to run 24/7. So I constantly worry about when a fan will go, or the humidifier.. I'm just hoping I can get em to the finish line. An outdoor grower once scoffed at me and said " you have it made, all you have to do is control the environment!". Yeh, that's all. Both outdoor and indoor are riddled with issues. It's hard for you to appreciate either until yove done both. But I still like indoors better. Especially in the winter! Winter is usually easy going man.
Yeh... I'm in there daily. It ain't perfect but I love getting in close. I actually planned this grow for about 8 weeks before I pulled the plug and started it. And I still made some dumb ass mistakes along the way. That's on me. I planned it, but when things go wrong, I forget to think!!
You sir are good they look great
Dude I grow outdoor and always have and I know both are different and comes with their own issues but I think indoor is harder just like you said you really have to have your environment dialed in and certain strains if you change to much of their environment like a light go out or water tube breaks the don’t bounce back they die and your out and depending on where you live you have to get humidity dialed in and use heaters and humidifier dehumidifier exhaust fan and that’s just part of it where yeah I have to deal with weather but a lot can be done with a canopy cover or move their buckets or things like that
Out door I have to deal with a lot more bugs but that’s usually just in the 1st half
You ever see them at night? I wonder it they look as sad as mine at night. If I didn't know better, I'd be panicking at how bad they look. But from what I know they just lay wayyyy down at night. I think the darker it is the more they sag.
Yes mine start looking sad when the son has went down but there is still a little light out they look like I would if I ran 5 miles lol
Pulling em out to check runoff and make sure they are getting enough. I included a night pic.. they look so sad when they sleep.
I love taking care of them so they take care of me
That's me.. I literally plan my life around my plants. I had to really downsize. I just don't have a need to grow and harvest pounds of weed. I have more than I can consume in 5 years if I stopped altogether. I get more happiness from growing and experimenting with them. I literally gave up my bedroom so the plants would be happier.. I got it bad man.
For me it's been a obsession since I can remember
They are doing better than expected. One of them has leaves the size of both my hands and they are only a foot tall! I can't wait to see these girls flower. I've been holding back on the nutes. If y'all have followed me you know. I'm.juat waiting till they stop stretching and I can pour on the light and see how far they can go. I expect them to go another foot or more before they stop... Shit, I hope that's all. They really are something I'm enjoying.
Edit.. damn . I forgot the cuttings! Ha, I'm high as fuck.
I got 3 of #7 and 2 of #1.. gotta wait another 10 days.... But I expect they will root.
Heall yeah bro looking great
That one that broke looks like it’s doing great man, she took that like a champ and just shrugged it off. But man these are looking amazing
Those little girls look happy and full of promise—good stuff
I feel.like a piping tom
It hurt me more than it hurt her. Lol. Mostly because it wasn't necessary yet. But... I just had to do it! I tied another down .. and she pulled both right out! Luckily, they are all staying pretty even. All but 2 of these have really tight internodal spacing. I assume that's about to change. They each have 2 tops, and as long as the lower branches don't take over, I'll let a few stay. Pretty soon all the pruning will stop. I'm still thinking about 1oz each. I also want some bulk to the tops so anymore than 2 and they'll be small.
Yeh . They do now. Hopefully I don't make any more dumb ass mistakes like I've never done this before.
Why you say that?
Getting little senck peeks of a theses sexy bitches
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Sounds like a good plan. You sound like me I try to plan or set a goal what I’d like to do or see and work towards that’s. For me it’s a lot better the just trying to wing it lol
Lol.. let's hope they stay that way.
No shit
About a week in. The girls are starting to realize what time it is. Now they are going to start racing for apical dominance. All but #4. Num 4 is the smallest. Back in the corner, and Im hoping she catches up or I'll have boost her up.
Multiple copies of all! Can't wait to see how they stack up! The EC is pretty good across all 6. #1 is a bit high, but she looks happy as can be. I'm mostly just listening to what they are telling me and showing me now. At this point, I'm just emptying the waste and enjoying the process.
Damn straight, looks well taken care and the new cuts are looking good too. Man you got fan leaves already bigger then my hands lol noice
I cut the biggest one off 2 nights ago. From #1 I believe. It was as big as 2 of my hands side by side and she is not even 14" tall. I'm a big dude. 6'4 and lanky so that really impressed me.But I purposely let that one grow. But what matters is coming next. I believe I'm gonna have to pull some tops down tonight. I always hate doing that. They look so good and then you pull em down. But... They must be trained! Otherwise I'll lose control in this little shoebox!
I could imagine but hopefully I’ll get to try this fall
That's a good amount of clones lol did you fix your electricity situation?
Stuff the fuck out of that tent it and take all these girls
Nah. I'm about to kill off a few of them. It's just an old house. It's plenty enough to run the grow. But I don't think I'll be renewing my lease. I'll keep 2 copies of each. If you, or anyone else likes how anyone of these girls stacks up I'll ship clones. They may all be "run of the mill" but with the hype the parents get I'm hoping all 6 put out beyond average.
I really appreciate it but I made clones and I made clones of those clones im like you right now idk what do with all this plants and I can't bring myself to kill it and I did to to one and I felt so bad so lol
They all look good. I find beauty and vigor in every one of them. I am maintaining the EC right on the edge. Once they get established, I'll jump up a bit and see how they respond. There is a lot of space in front, but I believe I may have enough smaller laterals I can fill in a second layer.. I have a plan. I trained 7 again and had to put the brakes on 6 as well. She has some lanky node spacing. But that may not be bad. It's literally the only chink in her otherwise stellar armor. I finally got to a point that I can let 7 do her thing. (The one in the middle taking up all that space!) I'm letting all the little laterals that seem to pop up every day now fill the space my previous blunder left behind. #4 wasn't doing much, so I swapped her and 6. It's a good spot for her. More light than at the door. But 4 is absolutely beautiful. Perfect symmatry, until I had to take a fan that was blocking #7. All in all I'm expecting good things. They are just showing sex, so we've a long ways to go!
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Seriously and yr saying mine is off lol omg ,ok .glade I checked yrs ,enough nonsense bro ,just stop.
Damn that fan leaf is huge and man they are growing great
What? I'm not even sure who you are?
You were dogging mine saying my grow is off remember!
Oh .. no.man... I want dogging you . I'm sorry if you took it that way.. no I didn't mean any offense. I get that youre training so am I. Don't get so emotional. I really didn't mean anything by it. You asked if under lighting would help. Yes. Butm sorry you took it the wrong way.
I apologize if I did .
I saw yr growing was just off and I thought it hadn't had time to catch up ,but I apologize about the mix up .there are some people that get on here and for some reason I got like 3 but they just like to put me down ,n I thought it was one those guys ,my bad .
We are all here to do the same thing man. I'll have to watch how I say things. Sometimes I come off brash and I really don't mean to. In few weeks we'll both have something to be proud of. You'll probably have a good bit more than me too!!
It's all good.
O it's not about how much I really thought I was this one guy and for some reason he's just like a gift from above he act like and thinks anything anyone does is done wrong or not his way and he has had like 2 or 3 grows in his life and ,I got sick of him pretty fast n he like to drop comments on my you tube e Chanel also butb,my bad for reals, I was just not this guy again come on man ,lol I'm so so sorry bro ,and yr are to correct and we are all in the group sharing info is what it's about ,but I apologize for the mix u buddy ,my bad brotha !
I keep having to break their little necks and execute some strange bondage ➰... But they are starting to get the idea... Hehe The laterals are filling in the space up front quite well. #7, the one I first cropped, is way ahead of the rest flower wise. So, she's stopped stretching and is now packing on weight, and her stance is what it is. #1 has maintained some tight inter-nodal spacing. And so has #4. I haven't had to repromand either one of them. But I have taken a couple secondaries that shit a bit for their britches. I'm having to keep the others inline... with a bit of a twist... and a snap. I've just about got a nice canopy but the thing is with 6 different phenos. Some may just be getting started!
We flowered almost around the same time
Man looks great you got that tent filled corner to corner nice job
Man I hope they stop. See! I knew this shit was gonna happen!! Lol. I'm just kidding .. But, I want to say I do think that's about it because of what they just did. The tallest ones all just shot up 2" over night. It's like they were grabbed at the top and bottom and stretcccccched. But they are also equally fattening. That last minute race to the light could be the signal they are about done. But in any event, I'm dropping the veg recipe. Yep.. its done. My ratio is now 1,2,3: gro, micro, bloom. I hope they are done because the current canopy (or landscape) will be gorgeous. Higher on the ends and shallow in the middle. That's what I was going for because this configuration allows for the best light spacing in my setup. And this is also why it's advantageous to harvest in 2 goes. The colas first, then give the secondaries another week or so. But.. well you know. If need be I'll take them down again. There is a bit of an art to training phenos you have never grown. They don't like to share!
This was from last night. I'm up and the lights are on so I'll see if I have to drop another today.
I'm going to let em fill out a week or 2 before posting again. I feel like I post too much anyway. The canopy isn't perfect according to what most people go for, but the way I grow it's almost perfect. All is good. Let em fatten and well see how the look in week! That is... Unless something changes and I have to report.
I have to figure out the clone situation. I have a good copy of all of them including the one that didn't and the tent, #2. I am probably going to kill #2 just because I don't have the space. I put all the clones in some of my soil cut with coco. They seem to love it. #2 really loves it she's as geen as can be with no sign of N toxicity and is just loving it. So as far as veg load, the soil seems acceptable. It is a tried and true recipe.
Dude I post way to much, I’m hoping when I’m done I’ll have enough to do a video on. Besides it something to occupy my free time besides video games lol
I think the canopy looks great you using every inch of the tent you got great light penetration and I would assume you got good airflow, are you in the 1st 3 weeks of flower?
Beautiful set up and plants growmie
Hi, Wishing you a good start!
Thank you so much! I'm still figuring out the app, but I'm starting to like it!
Hi 👋 In my opinion, this is one of the best grow apps out there. I will be using it daily—this app is my grow journal.
I'm figuring it out. By the time these little guys are in their final home I should be good!