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They are coming along nicely. I have been noticing the dreaded fungus gnats. Yes, it's summer in the south and they can't be avoided especially with a wet media like coco. I plan to treat with both nemotodes tomorrow and try to stop this before they get big enough to go into the final home. There is a LOT more than goes with this grow. I just need to spend the time to figure out how it all works. Ah...I just thought I lost the post, but now I'm figuring the app out! I'll update the main About with the correct text, so anyone who is interested in this experiment can get the info.
U can use 3ml of the 3% hydrogen piroxide per gallon of water to kill eggs and use the pest glue traps for adults then you gotta let her get pretty dry before waterings i had the same problem and this helped
Thank you! I have only seen a few. I dosed with nemotodes so I'm hoping the larvae are food by the time they go in their final home.
I'm up to 2 fertigations a day. Today is day 1. They are already looking hungry so I'm going up to .87 from .77 on the nutrients. My pH I'm going to raise a bit ( from 6.0 to 6.2) for calcium uptake because I'm seeing a twist on more than one leaf. I'll also get a CalMag foilar spray ready in case it persists. I recently change my nutrients "recipe" and Ibe went up on the CalMag supplement by 50%. So the pH trick and increase may be enough. I'll be watching.
I treated with granular nemotodes spread across the perlite on the coco. I was going to add a BTI dunk but it's just too soon for all that. I thought about it though. Hopefully the few Ive seen haven't done too much damage in laying eggs.
Well.. I wasnt going to post again untill transplant or immediately after but I made a dumb ass mistake early in the first days and I had to fix it last night. I also needed to document it. I'm sure it was a bit stressful to them, but worst case scenario they will be going into a new environment in just a few days. Until then I'll just watch them and continue as usual.
What I neglected to do was
I didn't allow for any runoff the first 2 days and only a little the 3rd day, and then I picked up with 10 to 20% run off by the 4th, but it was too late. I must have temporarily lost my damn mind because I know better than that. On a whim last night I decided to just check the run off and it was right at 3.0!! Yeh. I knew immediately what I did wrong. Trying to take on too much at once. Well... I flushed them back down to just about 1.0 with nutrient solution. It took longer than I wanted but I had to do it slow and I didn't want to strip the coco of the CalMag. I think it came out ok, the pH is trending high but that is not unusual after a flush. They look good. Hopefully I want drop the damn ball again and make another dumb ass mistake. I misted them with Calimagic. The pH being highayne that was a good thing. I'll see what they lookime after work and hopefully they are still getting the color back.
They all calmed right down. pH is in range for all plants and the EC is just under 1.0. One little plant had spiked to 1.4 because I didnt hit her as hard the nigjt before and had to re flush her to get it back down. This time I was forced to use a touch of Flora Kleen. Salts wouldn't budge. The FK lossened em right up. Then I used nutes to get it to about 943., pH was 5.9. The difference 6 hours late was noticable right away. Still looks a bit "hungry" but we'll get there. I still have to 86 one of these.
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These little guys are really coming along well. I think I finally have them @ the right EC. I have noticed that when the lights come on, they look a little pale, but after the second fertigation, they are nice and green again. I love coco. It's a bit more forgiving than dwc, but much faster to show results than living soil (of course) you can dial in exactly what your plants need. With soil, organics, by the time you see an issue, it's difficult to eradicate because of how the nutrients are processed. It can takes weeks, so you really need to know your plants needs ahead of time and get out in front of any issues. Foilar feeding can help this but you can't do it in flower. It's a double edged sword. The same is true for negative situations. It can happen just as fast. Still. There is something to be said about a good living soil, and the use of ferments, and light salt drenches to boost flower production. This is known as synganics and it can rival hydroponics if you have your shit together. As far as any issues with these females. I do still see minor Ca issues. Nothing bad, just some twists in the leaves that's indicative of an early Calcium deficiency. I usually have it fixed by the transplant and it usually always shows a little bit I'm the seedling stage.
Nice nice and glad to see that your having a good time with coco! I love growing with it I am currently just a week into my first time growing from clone and soil as well I kinda wanna switch her over to coco when I upsize from this 1/2 gal pot to 1gal here soon or if it wouldn't hurt or stunt her too bad
With cocca it depletes calcuim your plants probably need cal/ mag to be honest with u . Peat drains it too
They are. See my latest post and you'll understand why. wait.. did you even read this post before commenting?
Ok yes I did but I also looked at your plants sorry for caring
Oh for heavens sake. I didn't mean it that way.
Maybe u should start out by saying I know everything I don’t need help . I see u jumping on people every time they say something on your post I’d suggest not posting if u don’t like what people have to say obviously u know it all lol
Sorry if I offended. Have a nice day.
This is all due to my previous mistake when I neglected to implement enough or any runoff for the first 3 days. That was bad enough but I panicked just a tad and flushed them too hard. So what that managed to do was release all the Calcium and Magnesium that was previously buffered in. Now every time I feed all the CalMag is going into the coco and then plants are left holding the bag! I transplant in 2 days but I have treated them all with a full strength dose of CaliMagic. These plants are in the Foilar stance where I treat them and then let them absorb the nutes without too much light that could possibly burn them. On the next scheduled fertigation I am going to attempt an in-plant rebuffering. They are up to 1.0, 1.2 EC in the rootzone so I think they'll be ok. When the lights come on I'll replace the regular nutrients they'd normally get with calmag water and try to not have too much runoff. Then I'll resume normal feeding @ the next event. That should do it. I thought about doing it before, but that's as far as it got. Now I need to do it because I see it's definitely the culprit.
I would just up pot them since ur gonna need to soon anyway with a bigger pot and new soil should change eveything they dont look bad i dont add cal mag till 3rd week of flower u will know when u need cal mag the leaves will turn really yellow on center leaves and bottom looks different from ph cause bad ph will do the whole plant but urs look green but there going to get root bound soon those pots are small
It's a bit different with coco. It's not soil. This is hydroponics. I explained it all in the post. If you don't handle stuff when you see signs it can go bad in as little as 12 hours... Especially when you buffer zone is so small. I'll up pot when I have more perlite in 2 days. They'll be fine. I'm just using this site as intended to document every aspect of the grow. They won't get rootbound in another 2 days. they barely have 3 nodes.
Didnt realise i have been transplanting from soil to dwc and im using vivosun a/b it has the cal mag in it so ive been using it when i was not in soil just didnt know it i also switch to farmers secret during flower they love it
I think you can do that safely dude. The plants are pretty resilient. I do know that the roots develop different little hairs in soil than in water. I don't know the proper term man, and I'm pretty stoned. If you go from water to soil they have to harden off so you keep that soil wet AF a few days and then they take off. But going from soil to dwc... I have no experience. But It sounds like it works for you.
Yea this is only second time if u look at my last post u can see i had to wash all the soil off was so scared the first time i chopped like 1/4 of the roots cause they were too covered in soil i didnt wash them correcty i did 2 they both recovered within a week but scary week the one that i cut dud just fine an so did the other lota of room to grow down into o ly hard part is getting the plant to stay in position withput soil lol the pebbels do it but unstable as hell u gott build it up as u go once tgere established there fine but right now there like just sitting there also im using a culligan zero water filters it has a meter built in and its way cheaper than a r/o system
I would have been sweating balls man... These plants are pretty resilient. They want to live but sometimes it takes a turn and you just gotta do it. I have to check that out.
The transplant was yesterday actually. They were ready. Ok.. the coco I bought was supposed to be "triple washed low EC and buffered." I tested it just to be safe and it was right at 3.0. Wtf?! 3.0?!? Man that's crazy!! So It took me 24 hours to get that shit right. At least I hope it is. I gotta tell ya, I'm a bit worried. They have some issues with clawing leaves but not the N claw. The leaves are kind of tacoed, but not really tacoing from heat. I think it's because I flushed the ever loving.... Well it was too much. So it must have stripped the exchange sites of calcium and Mg. I figured that out a week ago, but let it ride. So here we are. And there they are. The system works great. Gotta do some work on the drain to waste that isn't drain to waste .. yet. I still have them on early veg equal portion base nutes and 3mg per gal calmag. EC inflow is 1.1 . Just waiting to see if they perk up.
They will... But you guys know it always feels when it's just not right yet, don't you? Kinda leaves you a bit down all day. Anyway, the run off is really low. It wavearges about 0.4 EC. So that means the run off is pulling out my salts a bit, too, soon. So I'm going to cut a minute off the drip time each event and see if I can gradually raise the EC. I'll let you know if it works!
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Day 17
Three days in the new home and I'm still withholding runoff in an attempt to gradually raise the rootzone EC to where it needs to be. I force a bit through at the 6am event so I can check. Right now for 5 of these beauties that's about a difference of 0.6! Holy shit. We'll get there. One of them was up to 0.8 . Not sure what the hell that's all about.. but I'm watching to see what happens. So... Let's see what tomorrow holds.
I'm still hanging on to the one that I didn't bring over. I may still keep her yet.
Hi, Wishing you a good start!
Thank you so much! I'm still figuring out the app, but I'm starting to like it!
Hi 👋 In my opinion, this is one of the best grow apps out there. I will be using it daily—this app is my grow journal.
I'm figuring it out. By the time these little guys are in their final home I should be good!