Homegrown - 🍒 🥧 & GSC Auto, 🚀 Seeds 🍌 Buttercups

dark green can be a sign of too much nitrogen

👍🏽 agreed

If they were mine, I’d lower the ph of the soil a bit and increase Ppfd of my light. I would also check my VPD. dark leaves don’t always point to nitrogen. it would have other signs if it was nitrogen, like shiny leaves, clawing, burnt leaf tips. this looks more like ph issue. blueish purple color on leaves is a sign of too much phosphorus. ph, molybdenum and nitrogen all works together. do a soil ph test, kits are cheap. can find on amazon. just a suggestion. 👊

thanks for the needed information. I am working on the pH slowly, it is my biggest problem. the soil was to rich with nutes as I didn't read the small print on the soil to find out it already had fertilizer in it before added more. this is a carry over from my previous grow learning attempt that I didn't learn from my research.

I use a soil pH meter and the pots are all over the high pH spectrum. 4.0 to 5.4. so I took the top 1.5 " off and added more coco. I have been adding 8.0pH water to the mix since I started understanding the soil blends. the darkest one, I got into the roots a little to much and now it's 😡 😂. got to make her happy again. the burnt tips and curling are from testing ppfd. took the lights up to power level 3, 360 ppfd and they didn't like it

the curling of the leaves isn’t from the light it’s caused by ph out of range. potassium deficiency. research curling leaves and ph. heat is more like a taco the whole leaf folds. it’s trying to limit leaf exposure to light. this curling is different.

thanks six. any suggestions on get pH down. I flushed this morning with my R.O. calcium enriched tap water. it's pH is around 8 and there probably going to need a few days to recover.

If using soil. research Sulfur powder. also microbes help regulate the ph. if they are photo plants in veg, you can upsize container with some bland soil or mix in peat. peat is naturally acidic. for every 3’ of plant you need 5 gallons of soil/coco

If you are using coco coir you are SOL. once coco sets ph it does not move, no matter how much you flush with acid water.

they will be fine if corrected soon enough. the stress is just starting so not much risk of yield loss/ stunting yet. 👊

pH is 4.5-5.5, my apologies on the confusion. I have added some lime to the mix, it will take some time though. this is a coco soil mix I'm using.

try wood ash, works faster. water soluble, not so much sulfur in the soil.

I wonder if it was from the molasses I put in the water. I use it to substitute for needing calmag

just noticed the girl scout cookies pistils started sprouting.

Beautiful setup!

it been a blast learning everything

that's awesome! I have learned so much lately its almost information overload lol. and so much more to go

that's awesome! I have learned so much lately its almost information overload lol. and so much more to go

great color

funny how it comes back when your water has calcium and magnesium in it 🤦🏼‍♂️😂

I would of too she gonna be nice n wide

got to keep the wide to a minimum unless I transfer her to a 5 gal fabric pot

I think she's old enough! 😂

Touche 😂

Looking good man!

looks beautiful 😍

thanks, I'm trying not to over adult them. they have quirks but not enough to panic.

could they be root bound?

looking root bound definitely I bet they dry out super fast right ? either that or your over watering them

I wouldn't think yet but possibly

d u see roots coming out the bottom of the pot

soil pH has been my struggle, can't keep the pH down.

also over watering

no roots out the drain holes. I don't think there old enough for that.

Also, if you have runoff and you’re letting the pot sit in that little tray with all that runoff water, they will suck the water back up, and that will cause a lot of problems. Also, the overwatering tube can cause that.

no, they get dry before the next watering. it's a nutrition thing according to ai. pH is slightly low at 5.0 5.4. I think I'm going to flush them.

I'll keep this in mind

does have an over watering tube. is that an accessory for a plastic pot?

I took a few leaves off that were thinning in-between the veins. the one had necrosis starting around the edges

Yes, that would be from letting it sit in the runoff water and it’s sucking it back up. It’s gonna cause a lot of deficiencies. Let that dry out a lot more before watering again.

Let it dry out completely, and then transplant it into a bigger pot as well

I just empty by hand myself or shop vac hose suck it out

yeah I’d flush them and ph at 6.0 to 6.5

that is definitely to low 5.0 wow

What type and/or brand of soil are you using?

that was the problem, my mix had fertilizer in it and I added more plus probably to much worm castings. Now I can't get the pH to a reasonable level. I just flushed one of the flowering GSC's to see if that would help. thoughts

some are autos and I'm not looking for it to get bigger. I just want to get it to the finish like one of the Pringles grows.

is there a way to get the soil pH down. pH Down isn't working and I think the ppm is 2.0 pp thousand.

when I flush, how long before a soil meter will read an adjustment in pH.

I can do that

Tbh in our experience thats normal. Wouldn't focus on it too much in our opinion. The plants dont mind the pH on the lower scale in the beginning. Up to you but likely just a water regiment with 15% runoff. Will send you a chart.

thanks, I'll keep this in mind. I have other without the pH issue but they have a lot more coco vs organics.they definitely seem to be doing better. course it's only the first few weeks for them.

The plastic pots could also be playing a roll. The roots need a proper supply of oxygen. We are having the same issue with our plants looking a bit sad at times and use identical pots. We are transplanting into 7 gallon fabric pots today though. (Not being critical just trying to brainstorm every possibility that theoretically may help)

If I was you, I would just pH some water between 6.0 and 6.5 and just give it a good drink until runoff and then check it in a couple of days

Well, normally what I would do is give a tiny bit of lime. Mix it in there and flush it or you can just pH the water to 6.0 to 6.5 and just water it really good and then let it dry out. Check it in another few days.

ok, that is what I did. made her drop real bad bud will see how she recovers.

thanks and it's greatly appreciated. I take every comment into consideration and anything that seems logical I research and confirm. everyone's input is welcome by me. thx CC

I'm pretty sure it's just a pH issue and there probably isn't a hole lot I can do but keep adding pH down to my water mix and hope the quick lime doesn't completely flip the pH spectrum 🤯🤦🏼‍♂️😂

or even just ph the water 6.0 to 6.5 and flush it and put some molassas in the water try that

what will the molasses do?

I've been pH adjusting so hopefully that kicks in soon.

it feeds the microbes in soil in turn making them multiply like giving them carbohydrates literally soo many benefits from using molassas more frost production to

1 got a gal and know to use it at flower but with the pH issue will the microbes help or hurt

water good with the ph water and add table spoon of molassas

got that for the plants that are in flower. when you just water a plant with r.o. water, what is considered fertilizer that you shouldn't only include when feeding. like is bat 💩 and worm casting tea fertilizers that add ppm to the water. I don't really understand calculating ppm and ec.

ppm is like the amount of fertilizer u are using like how much u add to the water in beginning of flowering u only start with light doses and as u progress further into flower u add more and so on so forth

a combination of flushing and the molasses should fix your problem

molassas has calcium and magnesium in there so that should fix your problem but flush first then wait a bit then add molassas

I found out the calcium and magnesium in molasses isn't a substitute for cal mag. that's how I shocked my 1st grow.

no it’s what feeds the microbes in the soil carbohydrates and there is no way that molassas shocks anything unless u use molassas that is unsulfered and if it is sulfur in it it kills the microbes in the soil so u probably used the wrong kind of molassas

I got that far in my research and purchased unsulfered. I did a soil test this afternoon and mixed soil with water. the soil pH says 6.75 and the ppm is at 2500.

ppm is way to hi

ppm is supposed to be no higher than 1500 in mid flower so u definitely need to flush that big time

yep, starting the flush 🚽

I didn't have anyway to really confirm it till today. now I have to find out how to get the ppm down. 🚽

you know they can see that IR light right? maybe why they are sad. just a thought 💭

they may herm on you. just keep an eye out. Ir light during night is not recommended

I researched it, in short periods of time it doesn't put out enough light to cause damage. it's only on when I look through the camera

that makes sense I was thinking it was like my ring camera where it’s on at night. just looking out for you. 👊

it's greatly appreciated. I think I'm stuck with the soil pH for this run in the 2x2 and 3x3 and will just hope the quick lime will reduce the levels a bit. the (4) I have in the 2x4 tent are sitting between 6 and 7pH, I added 2 blocks of coco to my premix and a little quick lime. they are looking perfect. the sugar cane even took a super crop clones both looking super healthy.

lime is a neutralizer so if your below 7 wouldn’t it just bring it back up to 7.0? what ph are you sjooting for?

I think this pH soil meter is off now. I did a pH test with my water meter and it says the pH is fine. It does say the ppm is in the 2000 range which is high. I'm gonna go with the next couple watering be straight R.O.

gotcha. I’ve never had luck with the soil ph/wetness meters lol. I just test run off and or do a slurry test if needed. hopefully you got er figured out!

everything came back high 🤣 from the soil test. look like time to water with just RO.

looks like Oscar the grouch coming out of his can. 👊 fill it up

did I say that out loud or did you read my mind

looking almost done to me

so 3" down from the top, the trikes are all clear. you think I should crop the top and watch the rest till they turn. or just dry her, she's fat like 5"across.

this is the 1st plant that made it this far.

they look very happy

still working on the feeding schedule.

nice bro looking good

dude, she farted in the tent while on her 48 hour sleep. man was it strong.

lmfao

😍🤯

the one good looking cherry pie decided they wanted to grow some nanners last night. I wasn't gonna let's seeds form this time so I cut em down to start new.

😭😭😭

no biggy, the 🍌 Buttercups was real close anyway, it was 5 days past the duration of flower from the site. on the other hand, this is (4) plants from home grown that has done this. I don't think it's me anymore, the one that grew dicks was the nicest one of the bunch. all white hairs, no burn, and was into the 2nd stage of flower.

😓 sorry to hear happens to most growers at some point. any seeds or did you get it before it could?

Well fuuuugggggg

I didn't want to risk seeds, I just chopped them all down. best just to start a new run. I have plenty of seeds I need to use and the 🍌 buttercups got to mid bulk so they look frosty. plus the other tent just went into flower. 🙃

it's only my second run and I'm just that much closer to my green thumb.