Grow Timeline (29 updates)
After a 3 month hiatus finally back at it. running all autoflowers, switching to photoperiods on the next grow after this. Just planted everyone last night, will update when sprouts are happening
Has been 3 going on 4 days since putting in dirt. 5 or 6 have spriuted so far, had to help a couple that somehow got buried deeper then they should have but they should be fine.
However the other 3 that I moved soil around to see whats going on with taproots, 2 were Jelly Donutz and 1 was an LSD. One of the Jelly i found a white taproot but it had no catyldons growing out of the other end so I just pulled it and planted another Jelly seed. The other Jelly and the LSD i couldn't find any signs of the seed itself or a taproot. So planted another seed in each hoping 2 dont somehow pop in them lol if they do ill just cull one of them I guess.
So little bit of a frustrating start getting back at it. But were on the way slowly lol
*shrugs* replaced 3 that didnt pop with different beans on Monday, was unable to find a taproot in 2 of them and 1 had a gimpy taproot. Still no signs of growth on 1 Jelly and 1 LSD so not sure whats going on here. Funnily enough the largest and furthest along is from a seed produced by ATF pheno 2 from the last grow. Everyone else is still pretty tiny. Really hoping these other 2 pop in next 3 to 5 days so I dont have to replant a seed in them for the 3rd fucking time.
Also im a dumbass and just realized this morning that I only had 4 out of the 8 bulbs on lmaoooo no wonder they were stretching a bit and look a little smaller then usual 😅 built the soil up around the base of the stem on a few that were stretching
Never had this much trouble getting a batch started lol honestly if those 2 never pop i might just run the 7 and try to SCROG it out
Are they autos or why such big pots for such small plants?
Yes they are all autos, start them in their final pots. They're not big pots only 3 gallons of soil per plant, I fold a 5 gallon cloth pot in half. Honestly I start photoperiods in their "final pot" most of the time as well. Transplanting is just unnecessary steps unless working with clones imo they just germinated and popped above soil maybe 3 days ago so yeah they're tiny now lol but you can look at my previous grows to see how big they get, 4 to 6 Oz per plant sometimes more or a little less. Averages out to about 4 Oz a plant though usually also stretched a bit and might be a little smaller then they usually are at this stage compared to previous grows because my dumbass only flipped one of the light switches so only had 4 out of 8 bulbs on for the last week until this morning when I realized it lmfao
Ahh ok fair enough I get it for autos I have a good technique for transplant so I never have had to deal with delay while they recovered it's all happy no matter what
My first autoflower grow (which i believe is also on here in previous grow logs) i started them in solo cups and transplanted and honestly think everything came out just fine didnt seem to stunt them or cause them to flower early so idk 😐 I just been sticking with the "final pot from the start" method because its easier and less steps lol
Fixing this post now lol
So since this morning we have full sprouts in all pots, except that turns out I jumped the gun on one of the Jellys I thought was a failed germination and now have 2 of them in it lol
Gonna end up culling one of them, not sure which yet they both look exactly the same.
LSD1 is looking a little funky super weird leaf formations but im not too worried gonna grow it out anyways. Ironically the fastest to sprout and furthest along is the ATF 2 pheno seed from my last grow. Like a massive difference its actually pretty crazy. One of the Gary Paytons is the next closest in size while everyone else is still pretty small.
Removed solo cup covers and added the humidifier to tent, temps were getting a little too high under the cup pushing 85+ so will see how temps and humidity settle out overnight and report back tomorrow
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Lmaooo Hasaki, the whitest fake Asian sounding name ever 😆 But really glad to be back
This particular sprout is looking super funky lol gonna keep it going and see what happens. Everything else is looking healthy and coming along well. Soon as they get a little bigger will take off their solo cup domes and run the humidifier as close to 80% as i can get it in there for another week or two and then lower it to 60% for remainder of grow until last few weeks of flower where I slowly lower it to 45-50% humidity. I find going to 40% to be too low especially with an HPS
This LSD sprouting has like, 3 or 4 water leaves/catyldons i think they're called lol and weird razor leaf formations. Not sure whats going on there but gonna keep trying to grow out this funky looking gal.
Other then that everyone else is looking well, ATF and Gary Paytons looking the most advanced growth wise at the moment.
Will pump up the humidity inside the tent once i take the solo cup dome covers off. Have a AC infinity cloudforge t3 hooked up to the tent that I will run distilled water in to up the humidity as close to 80% as I can for the next 2 weeks
Pretty much end of week 1 and everyone is looking good. A few are more like 3-4 days younger then the rest, theres one LSD that is still pretty tiny. The funky looking LSD is still growing and will probably be just fine once more mature.
Taking domes off and running humidifier at 80% with distilled water.
Alright, so everyone is looking good and healthy, even that derpy LSD 3 lol
LSD 1 is still looking really small and coming along slowly compared to everyone else, not sure why its so far behind it seems.
My temp and humidity readings are all different lol the sensor for humidifier hanging about canopy level reads 69% RH and 68 degrees F. The sensor at soil level is saying 58% and 80 degrees under the lights... and the sensor hanging at head height level in the little pocket of the tent is saying 72% RH and 70 degrees lol so i would average the humidity at probably 70% RH and temps around 75 degrees it seems.
Not sure why these orangish spots are appearing on this one Jelly pheno. Looks like it might be showing up a bit on the tiny LSD pheno (still not sure why this one is soooo far behind in size and structure). Humidity is 60-70% temps 75-80.
Other then that everything is looking good. Im not too worried about the spotting, the tiny one, or the weird ass LSD either lmao
As always I just grow em out and usually end up happy but whenever possible I try to figure out if something was off. So if anyone knows why the spotting might be happening, let me know.
Seriously though, what the hell is causing these orangish/brownish spots on some of the plants? At first I thought it was the humidifier but I am running distilled through it not tap water...
I have never had this happen when they're so young. All I can think of is to start adding silica and calmag to the next watering and see what happens. I assume that as long as the new growth is healthy they will be fine as most of these leaves will be dead/removed in a month anyways. But just looking for opinions on what could be causing it.
Also funny how small that one LSD is still. I dont think that plant is going to amount to much or probably even make it to the finish line at this rate lol feel like I should just pull it and start yet another one but ive already used 3 extra seeds due to germination failures on this grow.
So any opinions on that as well lol should I keep the smol gal going, or just start another one that is a week or two behind everyone else? Or even just kill it and only continue with 8 plants instead and hope the extra space helps the others get big n stronk.
If you adding anything to the water like nutes then maybe some splashed on the leaves or some bugs like aphids can suck on the leaves and cause spots
Just plain water PHd to 6.0-6.2 i thought maybe I got water on the leaves but I give them a good jiggle to get it off after watering. My other buddy who grows said its probably too hot which makes sense its getting up to 80ish under the lights. Turned up exhaust to try and get it down to 70ish
Yeah sound like it’s not the water and if you not noticing any bugs and your sure it’s the leaf and not a residue, then yeah I would try lights too maybe try moving your fan or doing something different with your exhaust to get it just slightly cooler (I’m no expert just a guy that likes to grow but sounds like you have eliminated the other possibilities I could come up it)
Almost positive now that it was all caused by temps being too high under the light (80-82 F). Opened side flaps and increased exhaust, dropped temps at least 10 degrees by doing that.
Keep us posted I’m invest in this now
Almost positive now that the slow growth, weird growth, and spotting were all caused by temps being way too high under the light, 80-82 F.
Opened side flaps and maxed out exhaust and temps are now around 70 F under the light.
Asded FoxFarm Boomerang at 1 tsp per gallon and watered everyone with that, hoping the Boomerang for a week or so will help everyone bounce back.
Forgot to take pics while I was down there and im too lazy to go back down for new photos so just slapped 2 recent ones on there lol will update in a few days with results hopefully start seeing some improvement. I fucked up at the most crucial stage for autos so we will see what happens, ive never fucked up like this before lol
At this point almost positive the temps were way too high under the lighting. 80-82 F was just too much for em lol opened the 2 side flaps on tent all the way and pumped the exhuast fan to max and temps are generally around 70 now, went as high as 74 yesterday.
Plants seem to be reacting quickly to the temp change, as you can see the tiny LSD almost died and almost didnt make it past its first set of leaves lol luckily the 2nd set started forming before the 1st set died.
Another reason I believe it was high temps is the leaf rippling going on. As you can see the leaves especially on most of the LSD are funky looking and "wavy". Honestly hoping i fixed this early enough that it doesnt end up causing too many problems and hopefully they will continue to grow out. At this point all 3 LSD are looking kind weird and not sure how im feeling about them. But, for science I will continue on trucking lol
Oh also watered everyone with foxfarm boomerang at 1.25 tsp per gallon yesterday to hopefully help them bounce back a little quicker.
Honestly all 3 of the LSD are either derpy and weird leaf formations, the super tiny possibly stunted one and the other is looking decent but also still weird leaves.
Might just kill off the tiny one tomorrow and replant something else in that pot.
Gonna keep the others going lol other then that everyone else is looking decent right now
Watered everyone with plain water today as the last watering was a Boomerang feed. Noticed a few starting to look hungry for calmag already so hit everyone with a 5ml per gallon measurement foliar spray to hopefully hold them over until the next watering which will be their first true feed of Grow Big, Calmag and Silica.
And honestly think im just gonna cut my losses with that stunted LSD. As you can tell the other 2 LSD already look weird as it is lol
The Jelly Donutz also seem to be struggling a little in size. Shrugs im just not having a good go at it this time around lol
When a few of my leaves started looking like Quasimoto I nipped those off and it started bouncing back and after I was able to top above the 3rd node they are look real good now they look to be about 1 to 1.5 weeks behind the others
I don’t know if it would work in your case but I thought I would mention it
Everyone is looking pretty happy today. Pretty sure the tiny LSD is just shot at this point, I started terminating another Gary Payton bean yesterday to replace it. Haven't seen much growth from it all week so just gonna cut my losses on that plant and replace it once the other beans taproot pops. It'll be behind everyone else by like 2 weeks but whatever.
This is definitely my last autoflower grow, have a local farmer with good starter clones that are like 2 feet tall and super healthy, old school genetics too. He has some GG4 and MAC 1 cuts that I will definitely be grabbing for the next grow and probably one other strain. Time to go back to photos they arent as finicky lol
The tiny sped lookin LSD has new growth that is actually looking 100% healthy now.
Everyone else is chugging along as usual.
I had started germinating another Gary Payton to replace the tiny LSD but idk maybe it will surprise me. I might start a 10th plant with the germinating seed anyways just because I have a feeling at least that tiny one or some other one is gonna end up derpy or crapping out on me anyways and will be replaced by it lol
Edit: seriously wtf lol just noticed this sproutling in one of the Jelly Donutz, I thought it never sprouted so tried digging it up and never found the seed so replanted a 2nd one and now 2 weeks later when I started watering further out, the original seed sprouted. Ahahahaa just my lucky. I might actually let it grow out another week or two then try transplanting it anyways lol
Gave everyone another calmag foliar spray today as the soil is taking forever to dry after last watering. Tomorrow or following day things should finally be dried back enough to give them their first feed of Grow Big, Silica and Calmag
The little sped plant is actually starting to look healthier then the other 2 phenos of same strain lol all the new growth looks really healthy. The other 2 LSD still have odd leaf shapes and formations. Honestly really disappointed in the LSD autos from Barneys. Grew out 2 of them on one of the last grows and 1 was my highest yielding auto ever but took 60 days to start flowering and about 120 total days to harvest. The genetics with autos are just odd and all over the place imo no matter what breeder ive used. Then again I've yet to try mephisto or night owl which everyone raves about nowadays. Maybe ill give some of their genetics a try eventually but I plan on growing photoperiods on the next few grows.
Well its our own fault but was trying to pay the property taxes a few weeks ago and they sent it back to us because we owe last years property taxes plus this year's now. Oh, and school taxes too. $7,705 and sime change due by June 30th in 9 days. We will have maybeeee $6,000 of that by then, so hoping my wife's parents can help us out a bit.
Other then that I pulled the little sproutling out of the Jelly that popped out. Ive been so busy last few days I didnt even keep on top of keeping the other germinated seed wet so eff it. Just gonna wing it with whatever grows and however it grows now.
Luckily the little messed up LSD is looking alot better and coming along nicely. The 2 other LSD got some fucked up looking leaves still so idk. Also removed the leaves that were basically dead from the tiny one.
Tbh ive been kinda half assing this grow and havent been able to give it the attention I have previous grows and its starting to show... sigh
Edit: around 1:45 PM power went out in the neighborhood and outage isn't expected to be fixed until 5 pm or so. Sheesh I have bad luck when it comes to this there was a power outage last grow too lol power came back on around 330 PM so not too bad.
Gave everyone their first true feeding today. 5ml silica, 5ml calmag, 1 tsp grow big per gallon. Used about 4 gallons total for all 9 plants today. Not much else to update everyone is looking decent right now.
The small LSD still has whatever is happening going on still those leaves were perfectly healthy a day or two ago and now have the orange rot looking spots again. Ive never had this happen and dont think its a calmag issue but now that they're being fed I guess we will see.
Pulled one of the LSD phenos out of the tent and probably gonna cull it. Looks to be eaten by bugs/pest and also seems to be starting to flower because of the stress. Idk these LSD also just seem to be garbage autos.
Will pickup some neem oil and treat all the plants in the tent ASAP to hopefully prevent any further bug issues. I don't see any actual signs of the bugs other then the clear signs of something feeding on this one plant.
Everyone else looks ok overall but the leaves on the other tiny LSD still keep spotting on the lowest leaf set. They were healthy 2-3 days ago and now look like this. A few might be showing signs of calmag deficiency but that should correct now that I am feeding.
Sigh this grow just seems to be plagued with issues. Just want to get this grow over with, sanitize the tent and move on to photoperiods again ASAP.
What if it was the best smoking version. I clone all female's flowering mom's to see which is the best after smoking/testing the plant. Happy growing
These are all autos so no cloning possible, plus over the course of 2/3 days it went from perfectly healthy to missing chunks of fan leaves and throwing out weird growth in the center that look like preflowering already. Overall was not healthy ill post more detailed photos of it tmrw
Unique leaf shape, very nice!
Yea idk the one i tossed had some gnarly new growth that was all wacky it was also waxy looking had a shine to it. Was missing chunks in middle and sides of leaves definitely looked like something was feeding on it. The other LSD has really odd leave shape but looks healthy enough. The 3rd one idk if its gonna make it and will prolly be tiny lol even the new growth on one of the GP the one at the far right end is looking odd. ive had similar happen with previous grows with autos. autos are just funky lol
I feel the same way about autos. Always something funky when I grow them. However I recently noticed my veg system had 20 gallons of water circulating just to feed a single basil. Said screw it throw some autos in there. Surprisingly they're doing really well despite Ph swinging wildly, EC spikes bc I forget to refill it. I try to grow autos and I can't. I neglect these and boom, massive. Might just come down to genetics
Lol right ive also heard that auto pots or really any automated feeding system for autos tends to really do well, idk ive had quite a few successful grows with autos the past year but they're just not consistent enough with genetics and once you find some fire its not like you can clone it. Theyre good to build a quick headstash but thats about it
Auto are plants in areas with low % to reproduce, a good example would be mountain areas. The flowers are intentional trying to finish flowering as quickly as possible to herm and reproduce on there own. They are just bread to reduce herming. They thrive best when in a consistent environment as every mistake is a loss in time for it to grow. That why I keep them to 1 gal pots. Start and finish quick without needing a feeding schedule. It's good for 4 to 6oz per 1 gal pot.
Better photos of the plant i killed off yesterday. Pretty sure something was eating it, the leaves were also very waxy. Forget what the name of the pest was that does that, but planning on picking up some neem oil when I get paid this week to treat everyone still in the tent.
Last photo is everyone today, overall everything else is looking good and the tiny sped that could is coming along slowly but surely still lol
Man it messed it up. I’ve seen a leaf or two start to look like that but it got those good. But maybe you caught it before it get to the others
Hoping so I havent seen any signs of it on the other plants and whatever happened to it popped up in 1-3 days prior max
Yeah I agree from the pics the others look great. I’ve got an outdoor grow this year and bugs have the worst I’ve seen in several years. I’ve been using a combo of sticky traps insecticidal soap and a mix of peppermint essential oil and water mix into a spray it’s seems to helped
Yeah ive used the peppermint for spiders before it definitely does a good job at deferring most pests. Thinking about grabbing some neem oil just in case
I don’t know know why but the peppermint seem to help with the grasshoppers too. I’ve not tried neem oil but I seen capt jacks has some (capt jack is the same brand of insecticidal soap I use) I may have to try that if I have any more trouble.
All you had was a nitrogen deficiency
Hello from the future! Unfortunately the world still exists tomorrow!!!
Lol anyways, gave the entire tent top to bottom a hydrogen peroxide scrub down. All spick n span n shit, hoping to curb whatever possible pest issue is going on.
Going to pickup something like neem oil or peppermint oil to treat the plants and prevent any further issues. Besides the plant flesh being eaten I dont see any signs of much besides the typical flies that sometimes come in the soil (the little fruit fly almost type fuckers) idk why foxfarm soil always seems to come with some friends might try a different soil next grow tbh
She puts the lotion on the skin or she gets the hose.
I used to have a light just like that one. It worked great for veg with T5'S mine had two switches, and could run 4 bulbs, or all 8 at the same time. I miss that shop light!
Yup thats what this model is. 8 bulb t5 fluorescent with 2 switches to turn on each set of 4 bulbs at a time. Nice low power way to get through veg. They do beautifully under it. I bust out the HPS after they finish preflower stretching :) I guess im still old school with my lighting lol not many of us out there that still do it this way Plan on finally making the switch to LED though hopefully by the start of the next grow
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Awesome whatever gets you the best results stick with it. I'm currently running an LED, and it's a very good quality light with a dimmer. I'm just hoping I'll love the finished product.
Ive had good luck with Lost Coast Plant Therapy. It's Rosemary, peppermint, alcohol, soap something like that. Comes as a concentrate 1oz/gal.
Dude! Spoiler warning would be appreciated when talking about the future. I’m thinking about trying a soil called indicanja but I’m going to mix in a little black kow with mine where I grow outside that should get me through the first month almost 2 easy
If you still have trouble with bugs after that and their not in flower yet get some captain jacks insecticidal soap it’s good stuff and kills bugs fast
Bet thanks for the suggestion
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Day 21 or so for these ladies. Removed the lower leaves that were starting to die on the small one. Still not sure what to make of that plant but it looks healthy overall so idk. I have had an LSD auto take 60 days to start flowering before and 120 days to finish so idk. Or it will just be small lol
Everyone else is fine dont see any more evidence of plants being eaten
Couple quick pics from today when stopped back to check on em. Busy weekend with my daughters high school graduation.
Everyone looking good though seems they really liked their first feeding. The ATF in back left of first photo is starting to grow up now, stacking some nice height overnight.
Im still not sure what to make of the tiny lil gal yet... that next node doesnt seem to be coming along much still lmfao I might end up culling it if it doesnt do much by time everyone starts flowering and just try scrogging out the 7 plants instead
Pretty much end of week 3 for everyone, a couple are few days older then others since they all sprouted between June 5th and 7th. Some seem to be starting preflower and going into their stretching phase
Everything seems to be coming along fine, havent really needed to make any adjustments. Might not even give any GrowBig on next feed, they seem to have plenty of nitrogen (only fed them once with GrowBig about a week ago, might just give Silica and Calmag for now?)
Will most likely start LST this week either tying them down or going the SCROG way. I kinda wanna try scrogging since I never have, but i feel 8 plants might be too many to do it in a 5x5. Maybe if it was 6 or 7
The tiny little LSD is stoll chugging along slowly but surely, gonna see it out to the end and see what I can get off of it
Like an illusion with mirrors 😂 Asian magician.
Temps outside are hitting 95+ today. Sheeeesh. Tent is staying around 70ish though so should be good. Basement usually stays 60-70 F.
After the last feeding the babies are looking nice and perky. Definitely starting their preflower stretch and putting on some height. Need to pick up more string later so I can start tying them down this week.,
The ATF new growth looks like it has some Nitrogen burn on the tips. Im correct in assuming that right? Lol somehow never really ran into this issue before so just want to be sure
First photo is the ATF in question and the last photo is a Gary Payton that I think is def showing signs of N toxicity due to the leaves clawing downward.
Think I am going to hit everyone with Boomerang next watering anyways I usually hit them with it during preflower stretch
This is just my opinion, could be wrong I usually am. First pic is riding that fine line of too much nutes. Could be bc you're feeding too heavy, salt build up or vpd is too high causing plant to transpire more than it should. Last one looks over watered. Could just be the pic but it's starting to get that puffy, raised look. You may also be getting tip burn started on that one. Id dial back the nutes and give them a little less love. Just my opinion
Idk im not even really feeding them they've only been fed 3 times total and only two times with Foxfarm GrowBig other then that just Silica and Calmag at 5ml per gallon. When i did give GrowBig I did 1/2 strength so 1 tsp per gallon. However I usually mix my soil this time i put down ocean forest first and happy frog on top idk why i guess I was just being lazy and heard others do it as well with autos. But I know ocean forest can be a little hot for autos so I think its because the roots are hitting the ocean forest and taking up too much N from it. And def possibly on the overwatering for that one ill just dial back the amount I give that one a bit and see if it helps, thanks either way they Boomerang should help smooth out these issues and then giving them plain water for the next 2 waterings following that feed
I'm in hydro so Im not really familiar with happy frogs and ocean floors. So I can't help you there. Switched to hydro because soil is hard to grow in. Sounds weird saying that lol They look good though. Keep rocking it bud
If your using a salt based fertilizer then what I do is about every 4 to 5 weeks I’ll do two feeding cycles of heavy watering to flush the soil and keep from salt building up this also helps to keep nutrients level where you want them there are some products you can buy to help the flushing process but I’ve found a good watering usually does the trick I would only use those products if your having trouble at harvest or curing getting those out of the plant and tasting better but that’s my 2 cents it’s what works for me
That pic the waxy leaves that could be from build up of to much nutrients or lack of magnesium if you flush try giving it a little cal mag and see if that helps but other then that these are looking really good
Im pretty much only giving them silica and calmag, only fed them Grow Big twice, maybe. The Boomerang followed by 2 plain waterings should clear things up
Wow doesn’t sound like you was giving them to much of anything but sounds like you got a plan keep us posted you got me interested now lol
Pretty sure its the pure ocean forest soil that they reached causing this issue its only on the newest growth so it would make sense that the roots have reached the Ocean Forest. Should just mixed it 50/50 like i usually do instead of layering it but oh well you live and you learn lol
Oh I c that would make sense but hey you tried it out and now you know I mix manure compost in with mine and if I get the mix wrong some of the leaves turn yellow and it’s always the bottom low leaves or new leaves
Funny thing is every other time by this time i end up with some leaves looking like they havr a big calmag deficiency and turn that rust color, if you look back at my previous grows in weeks 2 to 4 its there everytime, but not this time lol so fixed one thing somehow but caused another issue entirely I guess
Dude ain’t that the way it goes always chasing something and once you get that dialed in another pops up. Like a phosphorus deficiency shows up in purple lines going down the stem prob is some strains naturally have that but I’ve never had a prob with phosphorus until last year helping my brother it took me a min to fig it out but finally got only for him to have problems this year that prob going to be nite lock out but I picked up some sledgehammer to try and help him this year
Welcome back. I was on a 4 month break . U need to once in awhile to clear the head .9 plants is a good way to get back in the swing of things . Go big or go home 👍